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Old 03-14-2018, 03:54 AM   #26
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

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Even the solver folds there, you learn something new every day!

Why is it that everything I think is an exploit is something that the solver ends up doing anyways

What does it bluff jam as villain out of interest?
Yes, calling ranges are tight when you raise 3 stacks into an already very polarized range. I thought it might fold some % of the time but it actually folds 75% of the time. Like you said calling with just TT and 33 otherwise.

Solver mostly bluffs A3s since quads makes up a lot of our calling range. And it is very +EV, blocker effects are really magnified when ranges are so tight.
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Old 03-14-2018, 10:34 PM   #27
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

Yeah, I thought it would use trips as a bluff. I’ve seen it a lot in spots where the board is very wet and you’re honing in to near the top of the range.

It goes to show that even with bluffs in villain’s range, it’s a fold!

I wonder if jams with trips as a bluff deep will become the norm in a few years.
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:00 AM   #28
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

The guy looks more like a nit - 17/14 with low AF, not like a loose fish, I fold as played
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Old 03-15-2018, 11:22 AM   #29
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

I haven't much to add in terms of strategy but this is an interesting hand.

I think it might be more appealing to fold given the stack depth and villain's tendencies. However, that's easy for me to say with the info haha. He has some A3 here, and plenty of flushes to back those up, with some QJs,Axs,Kxs and so on.

Combos that beat you:

TTx3
33x3

Combos you beat
Ax of clubsx9
Kx of clubsx8
Qx of clubsx7
Jx of clubsx6.
A3sx8

Provisionally, from the action, you lose to 6 combinations and beat 40 combos. However, some of those you may be able to be discounted given the strength you've shown; namely the weaker flushes and possible the A3.
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Old 03-15-2018, 11:50 AM   #30
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

I don’t think anyone shoves a flush here, even at 2NL. Everyone knows about relative hand strength now.

I would bet money on his range being exactly 77, TT and 33.
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Old 03-15-2018, 12:14 PM   #31
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

77 is actually a pretty -EV shove in theory, basically never getting called with worse

and by -EV I mean actually way worse than just folding
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Old 03-15-2018, 01:01 PM   #32
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

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I haven't much to add in terms of strategy but this is an interesting hand.

I think it might be more appealing to fold given the stack depth and villain's tendencies. However, that's easy for me to say with the info haha. He has some A3 here, and plenty of flushes to back those up, with some QJs,Axs,Kxs and so on.

Combos that beat you:

TTx3
33x3

Combos you beat
Ax of clubsx9
Kx of clubsx8
Qx of clubsx7
Jx of clubsx6.
A3sx8

Provisionally, from the action, you lose to 6 combinations and beat 40 combos. However, some of those you may be able to be discounted given the strength you've shown; namely the weaker flushes and possible the A3.
He loses to 4 combos, not 6. 33(1) and TT(3).
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Old 03-16-2018, 12:54 AM   #33
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

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But does PIO say fold?
is PIO worth it? Checked out snowie and wasn't impressed but maybe this is better?
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Old 03-16-2018, 11:49 AM   #34
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

Snowie isn’t remotely GTO- it just played billions of hands in a vacuum against itself. Even its pre ranges are exploitable imo.

I use GTO + and I gotta say when I was last around poker solvers didn’t exist and they are most definitely worth it!
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:08 AM   #35
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

pio says fold? what is it calling
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:30 AM   #36
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Re: NL2 zoom 6max 3.5BI full house get shoved on river, do i fold?

Quads, TT and 25% of 77
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