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[NL2] Combo-draw vs small turn bet (3Bet pot) [NL2] Combo-draw vs small turn bet (3Bet pot)

02-21-2019 , 04:15 AM
$0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

CO: 118.5 BB
BTN: 85.5 BB
Hero (SB): 119.5 BB
BB: 107 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 22.73, Hands: 24)
MP: 109 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, UTG calls 9 BB, fold

Flop: (28 BB, 2 players) 9 4 2
Hero checks, UTG bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

Turn: (64 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, UTG bets 15 BB,
Spoiler:
Hero raises to 89.5 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 55 BB and is all-in

River: (204 BB, 2 players) 5

Hero shows A Q (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 48%, Flop 55%, Turn 41%)
UTG shows 7 7 (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 52%, Flop 45%, Turn 59%)
Hero wins 197 BB


I gon confused reviewing this hand

Should I just check-shove flop?

Or call flop, and call turn, and then I have to check-fold river, and if I hit hy hand leading seems odd and if spaid or 5 comes villain would probably check behind with his overpairs

Also the size he picked is strange, I don't think he would use that size with overpairs, just really strange spot and I don't know how to aproach it, I think two good solutions are check-shove flop or call down to the river, what do you guys think?
[NL2] Combo-draw vs small turn bet (3Bet pot) Quote
02-21-2019 , 04:24 AM
Check raise flop, I'd raise to around 50-55BB and look to GII OTT
I'd also lead flop most of the times.

Calling down is a bit too passive for me.
Also we always jamming vs V's sizing. He's giving up most of the times there, but it's 2NL so yeah, we get called by any pair
[NL2] Combo-draw vs small turn bet (3Bet pot) Quote
02-21-2019 , 04:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelorcharlie
I'd also lead flop most of the times.
okay, so if I Cbet flop for like 14-16bb and he calls I should jam any turn right?
[NL2] Combo-draw vs small turn bet (3Bet pot) Quote
02-21-2019 , 04:51 AM
Leading flop gives us options on turn
We can check call, check raise, continue betting turn.

On those stakes I might just rip it in as you say, if we are comfortable with high variance plays.
[NL2] Combo-draw vs small turn bet (3Bet pot) Quote
02-21-2019 , 05:16 AM
You could call flop with this exact hand. But the more standard way to play the NFD in a 3-bet pot OOP is check/shoving. If it checks through, that's fine. If we get all in, that's fine at this SPR. The one situation we want to avoid is calling, bricking turn, and facing a massive bet on the cards that don't improve us. He's gonna have a decent idea what cards those are. We avoid this entirely by check/shoving.
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02-21-2019 , 05:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FoldOnce
If it checks through, that's fine.
in that case, if I check flop with FD and opponent checks behind, turn does not improve me, I check and opponent bets I should play off of his sizing? if bet is small(less or 1/2) I should call and if the bet is big(more then 1/2) I should fold?
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02-21-2019 , 11:32 AM
Cbet is standard here, not only because u were the PF agressor , or de FD, its because u dont have SDValue and u need fold equity to make the hand +ev
[NL2] Combo-draw vs small turn bet (3Bet pot) Quote
02-21-2019 , 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.FlyingDutchman
in that case, if I check flop with FD and opponent checks behind, turn does not improve me, I check and opponent bets I should play off of his sizing? if bet is small(less or 1/2) I should call and if the bet is big(more then 1/2) I should fold?
We mostly start betting once our opponent checks back flop.

Our opponent's range on this board is mostly overpairs, overcards, 99, and very infrequently weak pairs. If we c-bet he folds the overcards (which we crush) and continues with the part of his range we are flipping against or worse.

Given that we want to be able to get value from more than just pair vs pair spots, checking our whole range and giving our opponent a chance to stab with his overcards seems pretty desirable. We can check/shove FDs, JJ+, and probably most of our AK.
[NL2] Combo-draw vs small turn bet (3Bet pot) Quote
02-21-2019 , 03:32 PM
Three options are viable on the flop: Bet, check-call, and check-raise. I like check-calling with AQss and AKss as they dominate villain's folding range, but betting with lower FDs (less SDV, can make AK/AQ/KQ fold).

Could also check-call turn, but I like check-jamming. I think OP played it well. I don't like villain's line, particularly his call off. You can have A5s and TT+, which is a lot of combos that crush his underpair.
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