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NL2 AK - Correct fold? NL2 AK - Correct fold?

04-26-2018 , 04:50 PM
I'm really lost in this hand. Did I fold correctly? I don't think I can call OTR mainly because I don't think he has a bluffing range that will c/r flop and barrel twice while going all in on the river (I don't sombody will bluff like that in NL2 atleast, lol). But maybe this is just an easy fold OTT perhaps?

Could I call the river if the river wasn't a spade or is villians range just to many sets and two pairs anyway?


PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 153 BB (VPIP: 40.74, PFR: 20.37, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
UTG: 114.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.07, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 57)
MP: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (CO): 562.5 BB
BTN: 219.5 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 37)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 19)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) K 6 5
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BTN raises to 16 BB, fold, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (41.5 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN bets 40 BB, Hero calls 40 BB

River: (121.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 160.5 BB and is all-in, fold

Spoiler:
BTN wins 117.5 BB
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04-26-2018 , 05:53 PM
Hard to give villain a credible hand when they jam river like that. Backed into a weird flush with 87? Is 55 really shoving river here? We can easily have Kx of spades here, as well as 87ss, KQ and all the flopped sets.
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04-26-2018 , 06:06 PM
Not sure if V is cold calling PF with 34s but a flop raise would make sense with that hand. Either way I think you should fold river
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04-27-2018 , 07:48 AM
Wp imo
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04-27-2018 , 07:51 AM
I don't want to derail the thread but I have to mention it, because I'm confused. How are these vpip numbers constructed? I mean there's no whole number that's exactly 25% of 57. UTG had to play 14,25 hands to get these numbers, which is obviously impossible.
It got to my mind due to BTN and SB both having 27,78 vpip while the number of their hands are both prime numbers (19, 37). Now, as I calculated, there are no whole numbers which are 27,78% of these numbers. Is it a bug? Am I missing something?
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04-27-2018 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AliceWhat
I don't want to derail the thread but I have to mention it, because I'm confused. How are these vpip numbers constructed? I mean there's no whole number that's exactly 25% of 57. UTG had to play 14,25 hands to get these numbers, which is obviously impossible.
It got to my mind due to BTN and SB both having 27,78 vpip while the number of their hands are both prime numbers (19, 37). Now, as I calculated, there are no whole numbers which are 27,78% of these numbers. Is it a bug? Am I missing something?
They can have multiple opportunities to put money into the pot during a single hand, no?
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04-27-2018 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nolispeifaflaatoi
They can have multiple opportunities to put money into the pot during a single hand, no?
I strongly believe vpip only covers preflop play.
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04-27-2018 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AliceWhat
I strongly believe vpip only covers preflop play.
Or maybe it doesn't count hands when you're the big blind and everyone else folds?
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04-27-2018 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nolispeifaflaatoi
Or maybe it doesn't count hands when you're the big blind and everyone else folds?
Yes, that is a possible reason.
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04-27-2018 , 12:21 PM
Fold turn.
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04-27-2018 , 01:40 PM
It doesn't count towards your VPIP when you're in the BB, and the pot doesn't get raised.
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04-27-2018 , 05:30 PM
Nevermind
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04-27-2018 , 05:55 PM
correct fold
and I think that river saved you 160 BBs

Its rarely a draw because he would've flatted your small bet on flop.

However respect for villain for having have the balls to overshove his repped set on a 3 flush river.
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04-27-2018 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nolispeifaflaatoi
Or maybe it doesn't count hands when you're the big blind and everyone else folds?
Correct. It's voluntarily put $ in pot. The big blind is a forced blind.
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