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NL16 (Bad?!) tripple barrel bluff BvsB NL16 (Bad?!) tripple barrel bluff BvsB

08-19-2018 , 08:26 AM
PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.35, PFR: 13.41, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 699)
Hero (SB): 127.19 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.57, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 178)
UTG: 119.63 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 43)
CO: 327.88 BB (VPIP: 44.23, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) J K 2
Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB

Turn: (14 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 11 BB, BB calls 11 BB

River: (36 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 29 BB, BB calls 29 BB

Spoiler:

Hero shows T Q (One Pair, Twos)
(Pre 49%, Flop 54%, Turn 32%)
BB shows 5 5 (Two Pair, Fives and Twos)
(Pre 51%, Flop 46%, Turn 68%)
BB wins 89.75 BB


I was a little bit frustraded when I played the Hand in retrospect I think I should have not fire turn but when I do so I should probably bet the river also.
I have a hard time to put him on a Range in this BvsB situation, are those Ranges reasonable?

call OTF:
77+,22,Ah2h+,K5s+,Qh9h+,Qh8h,Qh7h,J8s+,Th9h,9h8h,A To+,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o, some random FD

call OTT:
JJ+,22,Ah2h+,K5s+,Qh9h+,Qh8h,Qh7h,J8s+,Th9h,9h8h,A To+,K9o+,QTo+,J9o+, some random FD
=> not much what he would fold here

OTR: He should fold all his FD without pairs and most of his random JX so a bluff should be profitable? I also did not count in that he could raise with some of his stronger holdings and some weaker draws.
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08-19-2018 , 09:20 AM
Lol...this hand you played yesterday right? You was on tilt and very aggressive. I made a hero call and got lucky.
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08-19-2018 , 09:41 AM
what is villain folding on the river?
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08-19-2018 , 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TakeItiletyou
Lol...this hand you played yesterday right? You was on tilt and very aggressive. I made a hero call and got lucky.
Yeah, was it that obvious? Nice call.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ojune
what is villain folding on the river?
like I said mainly missed FD`s.
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08-19-2018 , 10:00 AM
And straight draws. Ok now look at your hand, notice something?
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08-19-2018 , 10:12 AM
[QUOTE=Asatorholdem;54175687]Yeah, was it that obvious? Nice call.


You have range advantage. I am overcalling here..its exploitable...So its me that play bad.
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08-19-2018 , 10:41 AM
I think it's okay. Maybe we can give up river but I def don't think firing the third bullet is terrible. Ranges are still pretty wide, villain has plenty of Jx, any draws, maybe even some weak Kx (edit: just checked spoiler, 55 too apparently lmao) that can fold. I think I can find plenty of hands in my range in this spot that wants to give up OTR over this hand.

@TakeItiletyou This is not a hand I would be owning up to on here! We've all done it but most of us try to keep an appearance otherwise
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08-19-2018 , 02:40 PM
Give up river
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08-19-2018 , 06:36 PM
Having a heart blocks his folding range but your hand has good blockers vs calling range. I think x/f this combo but bluff with the no heart combos
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08-19-2018 , 07:03 PM
lmao nits ITT

wp
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08-19-2018 , 08:30 PM
Looks fine to me. You'd rather not have a heart in your hand, but it can't be terrible to triple all your QT apart from QThh, as villain is pretty capped (e.g. KT would be near the top of his range), while you can have boats and top two, and the best Kx.
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08-19-2018 , 09:11 PM
It's not terrible but it's better to bluff without a heart and even better with Q9, T9
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08-19-2018 , 09:58 PM
doesn't a question like this depend on:

1. your sb opening range
2. the bb defending range
3. the range you bet flop
4. the range you bet turn
5. the range you bet river

taking into consideration the range with which you x/f, you x/c and you x/r on each street.

if these aren't properly balanced so that you are bluffing too much with all your missed draws, then villain can exploit you by calling down light.

so it seems to me the answer to your question is: it depends...
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08-20-2018 , 06:19 AM
Meh, I think it is alright. I'd probably give up on river, because people tend to over fold turn and over call on the river in this spot.
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08-21-2018 , 09:18 AM
I think it's ok to triple barrel every QT, and you can check raise the QhTx, instead of betting this combo..
You have more fold equity and its cheaper than betting all streets..

Just an Idea, you know... It has the same playability, but with a runner runner flush, you can get a litlle more value from the opponents range..
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