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Old 02-20-2019, 07:16 AM   #1
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[NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

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UTG: 12.39 (124 bb)
MP: 11.84 (118 bb)
CO: 6.88 (69 bb)
BU: 25.18 (252 bb)
SB (Hero): 14.10 (141 bb)
BB: 10.45 (105 bb)

Pre-Flop: (0.15) Hero is SB with A J
2 players fold, CO raises to 0.35, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to 1.20, 1 fold, CO calls 0.85

Flop: (2.50) 4 7 3 (2 players)
Hero bets 1, CO calls 1

Turn: (4.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets 5

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Villain's 28/18 in 107 hands.
These broken stacks can definitely put you in weird situations; I think once we decide to cbet pot we're kinda forced to shove on the Qc?
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:10 AM   #2
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

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Old 02-20-2019, 08:15 AM   #3
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

You should avoid 3betting those kind of hands against short stacks..

Your hand must hit the flop.. otherwise you can't play draws because they you can't pass the turn without commiting yourself in a draw..

Just call PF or make a different 3bet size.. much smaller than 12 BBs
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:22 AM   #4
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

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You should avoid 3betting those kind of hands against short stacks..

Your hand must hit the flop.. otherwise you can't play draws because they you can't pass the turn without commiting yourself in a draw..

Just call PF or make a different 3bet size.. much smaller than 12 BBs
What are you talking about this is a clear 3bet and flatting Vs a 3.5x sizing is terrible. If we hate money then flat away. 3 bet sizing is fine as well.

Op well played don't listen to this guy
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:16 AM   #5
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

Not flatting CO vs SB sorry mate.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:30 AM   #6
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

I see no reason to bet this this hand OOP vs a fish. I would just bet my made hands/high equity draws and try to realize my equity with weaker hands that have some SDV.
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Old 02-20-2019, 11:25 AM   #7
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I see no reason to bet this this hand OOP vs a fish. I would just bet my made hands/high equity draws and try to realize my equity with weaker hands that have some SDV.
BDNFD + 2 overs not enough equity?
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Old 02-20-2019, 11:56 AM   #8
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

Out of interest, why did you post a thread titled "Awkward spot OOP" if, as it appears, you believe yourself to have played it perfectly?
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:07 PM   #9
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

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Out of interest, why did you post a thread titled "Awkward spot OOP" if, as it appears, you believe yourself to have played it perfectly?
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Preflop I'm minda sure that 3betting > flatting.
But flop/turn why do you think I believe to have played it perfectly?

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BDNFD + 2 overs not enough equity?
This was a genuine question, not a sarcastic one.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:19 PM   #10
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

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BDNFD + 2 overs not enough equity?
Vs a full stacked reg sure.

General fish tendency is to call wider than they bet.

Vs a short stack fish we end up bloating the pot relative to effective stack with a hand that has around 25% equity when behind. What better hands do you think he folds? You are just betting for protection against Ts9s type hands, which we don't really need at this point.

Our BDNFD will be more profitable the times we can get to the turn deeper stacked (ie, when it goes check/check) and we have more stack depth to bluff with, more equity (we improve to 33% on club turns vs most of his range), and are up against a weaker range. Up against a fish we should exploit to being more value heavy and I would rather just wait to pick up equity before I started bluffing.

I also think this hand is strong enough to x/call flop and win at a decent frequency when his line is stab -> give up or we improve.
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Old 02-20-2019, 08:01 PM   #11
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

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Old 02-21-2019, 12:36 PM   #12
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Re: [NL10z] Ankward Spot OOP (3Bet Pot)

Agreed with simplelessons but dont think the way you played it is bad by any means
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