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NL10 TT Set on Flushy board NL10 TT Set on Flushy board

07-20-2019 , 03:46 AM
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 155.6 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 13.07, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 181)
SB: 194.9 BB (VPIP: 24.29, PFR: 18.57, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 73)
BB: 109.1 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 81.3 BB (VPIP: 19.61, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
MP: 162.2 BB (VPIP: 26.02, PFR: 20.43, 3Bet Preflop: 5.06, Hands: 480)
Hero (CO): 195.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (12 BB, 3 players) T J 7
MP bets 7.9 BB, Hero calls 7.9 BB, BTN calls 7.9 BB

Turn: (35.7 BB, 3 players) 6
MP bets 23.5 BB, Hero calls 23.5 BB, fold

River: (82.7 BB, 2 players) 3
MP checks, Hero checks

Not sure where to do something else here.

Preflop I just call vs MP open I don`t like to 3bet here with TT.

Flop is perfect for me, JJ beats me what MP could have and 89 beats me what both could have. I decided not to call because I want Btn in the Hand who could also squeeze here with a lot of Hands.

OTT the Flush comes in he contiues betting I call because even against a set I have a lot of outs but now I`m worried about the btn behind me.

OTR I would fold to any bet I don`t see any reason to turn my set into a bluff.
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07-20-2019 , 03:57 AM
CO doesn't have a calling range vs MP. In addition, we are also over 150 big blinds deep, this makes a reraise more attractive. We also are incentivized to raise given his larger opening raise. calling cold and inviting button along OOP with a middling pair is not good.

Flop this is an absurdly dynamic board, you need to raise middle set. We do not want button to call behind and realize his equity cheaply, or MP for that matter. Turn, raising is not a good idea, flatting is best, river the board runs out four flush, your set goes down the drain.

The potential of your hand was wasted on the flop / preflop. Imagine flopping middle set in 3 or 4-bet pot on this dynamic board. Our hand can stand a 4-bet.
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07-20-2019 , 04:01 AM
I would raise the flop like always on a board like that. If it's heads up, against a reg you play a lot against I might just call like 10-20% of times, just to have strong calling hands on that kinda board so he can't automatically rule out sets and combo draws.

But 3-way, way too many bad things can happen on the turn that either cause a suck out or kill the action. Plus you give the BTN very good odds to call in case he has a draw.

Of course they MIGHT have JJ or 89. But JJ is a long shot (and he might just as well have 77) and you have nice equity against 89. But it's more likely you're up against a flush draw, an over/top pair, JT, KQ etc. Sometimes worse like AK with a single heart.

They might of course fold top/over pairs here when you raise but then again they might not. Cbetting against 2 regs is a strong move but it's not like it's the automatic nuts.

And if they fold when you raise you just won 20bb, woo haa!
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07-20-2019 , 05:58 AM
Raise flop. Always. Xback river.
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07-21-2019 , 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amazin lazer
CO doesn't have a calling range vs MP
What do we do with hands like KJs, QJs, 99, 88, A2s-A5s?
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07-21-2019 , 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mediacalc
What do we do with hands like KJs, QJs, 99, 88, A2s-A5s?
3bet probably
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07-21-2019 , 02:49 PM
wait what?

You cant call in Co vs MP?
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07-22-2019 , 04:26 PM
calling pre is fine, not worried about anyone behind us (it's going to be a a mix with no reads on pfr)

flop we should be raising

river just check back, no need to do anything else really
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07-22-2019 , 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrfunnywobbl
wait what?

You cant call in Co vs MP?
News to me too. Would love it if someone chimed in
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07-22-2019 , 07:02 PM
No you can and probably should but in theory, solvers seem to suggest we should have a very tight calling range

Might as well 3bet completely linear. Again it's in theory, in practice I don't think people 3bet enough especially at low stakes.

Oh and also, the bigger the preflop raise, the more we should raise or fold

Last edited by Ojune; 07-22-2019 at 07:11 PM.
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07-22-2019 , 08:10 PM
solvers pretty much only flat on the button vs EP or MP open. vs co it is pretty much 3b/fold almost always.

When you flat in CO or MP you give the BTN the option to squeeze with absolute Position.
But if other players at the table do not exploit your Flats with aggressive squeezing than it is "fine". like said before most players at the low stakes do not 3 bet enough to punish a flatting range
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