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03-22-2021 , 10:16 AM
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    iPoker - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players

    I'm not happy for myself

    UTG: €10.00 (100 bb)
    CO: €10.33 (103.3 bb) 66/2/0 fish
    BTN: €10.00 (100 bb) 22/16/16,7 (51 hands)
    SB: €13.42 (134.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): €10.05 (100.5 bb)

    SB posts €0.05, Hero posts BB €0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: €0.15) Hero has T J
    fold, CO calls €0.10, BTN raises to €0.40, fold, Hero calls €0.30, CO calls €0.30

    Sqbet is an option, but wanted to keep CO in...

    Flop: (€1.25, 3 players) 9 7 J
    Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets €0.75, Hero raises to €3.50, fold, BTN calls €2.75

    Kinda don't know what to do??? Hero is lost, what is the best line

    Pretty good flop for hero. Still our hand is vulnerable and don't even know if we lead... Well, ended up to present just what it is.

    Better to Bet/3bet (if BU raises) or Bet/Call?

    Turn: (€8.25, 2 players) 6
    Hero bets €6.15, BTN calls €6.10

    ??? Hope for set or straight for V.
    But do we bet or check? I think check is not an option, gives V a change to check back and get a free card. We do not want to see a river

    River: (€20.45, 2 players) A

    Results: €20.45 pot (€0.61 rake)
    Final Board: 9 7 J 6 A

    BTN shows A 3: (Flush, Ace High)
    (Pre 56%, Flop 34%, Turn 98%)

    Hero mucks T J: (Flush, Jack High)
    (Pre 44%, Flop 66%, Turn 2%)

    BTN wins €19.84
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    03-22-2021 , 12:58 PM
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    Id start with betting and trying to get all the money in on the flop if raised. I don't want to risk that it gets checked through and let them over realize with their AdQd. Also when you c/r and get called literally any turn in the deck apart from 8c is awkward.
    Still as played I don't think we can c/f so just shove. Ugly spot though sets & T8 probably just fastplay flop so villain is likely heavily weighted towards flushes of which there is not a single one that we beat probably c/f is an option. Just avoid this spot by betting flop
    Last edited by sinnaJ; 03-22-2021 at 01:09 PM.
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    03-22-2021 , 06:12 PM
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    I think a 3bet pf would work pretty well. As played, you could lead the flop, but personally, I'd have gone for the x/r too.

    Ott, I like a check. Villain might have some bluffs he would like to try, and you've still got the river to jam if it comes to that. Overall, I don't think the jam achieves much. You will get it in vs a smaller flush which might not call should a fourth club come, but by jamming, you aren't giving villain the chance to make a mistake (or make a bluff which isn't a mistake).
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    03-22-2021 , 07:26 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pjj
    I think a 3bet pf would work pretty well. As played, you could lead the flop, but personally, I'd have gone for the x/r too.

    Ott, I like a check. Villain might have some bluffs he would like to try, and you've still got the river to jam if it comes to that. Overall, I don't think the jam achieves much. You will get it in vs a smaller flush which might not call should a fourth club come, but by jamming, you aren't giving villain the chance to make a mistake (or make a bluff which isn't a mistake).
    Disagree. PIO, not a 3bet hand, just a call. Even if he 3bets, A3s should call on bu, so no loss for villain, just more money lost for Hero.

    Its a bad beat, they happen. I get that occasionally as well. But not as many times as I win. Compare your flushes overall for wins vs losses, and you will feel better.

    Feeling bad is results oriented, and we want to get away from that. Playing tons of hands, you start to shrug off bad beats. If its one of those days that every AA gets cracked, flushes get cracked, and you start to tilt (like moi sometimes), just stop for that day, it happens.

    Edit to add: Looking at ranges again. If BB 3bets, among other hands A3s-A2s are 4bet to 27 BBs. Which is why we want to watch what we 3bet with.
    Last edited by FutureInsights; 03-22-2021 at 07:32 PM.
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    03-23-2021 , 02:48 AM
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    i 3b this more often than not but flatting isn't bad. flop lead is def best if you're not worried about balance, tho the downside its not the kind of low board that bb naturally donks do i doubt you have a balanced range figured out there. x/r can't be too bad, tho does anyone like x/c flop with the fish still left to act?
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