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nl10, 44, underpair, flop c bet or not? nl10, 44, underpair, flop c bet or not?

07-18-2019 , 02:09 PM
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $12.19 (VPIP: 30.19, PFR: 28.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
BTN: $3.03 (VPIP: 15.73, PFR: 8.99, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 91) (fold vs c bet IP 4/6 oportinities)
SB: $15.57
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 35.53, PFR: 25.44, 3Bet Preflop: 5.48, Hands: 236)
Hero (UTG): $10.15
MP: $8.87 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 4 4

Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) 3 9 K
Hero ?


Q: Can we c bet bluff profitable here?

A:

to make a half top bet profitable, he must fold 33% of better hands

I put this rangue in equilab

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Board: K93
*******Equity*****Win*****Tie
BU*****63.91%**63.42%***0.49%*{ JJ-22, AQs-ATs, KQs, AQo-AJo, KQo }
SB*****36.09%**35.60%***0.49%*{ 4d4s }
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there is 97 combinations in pf rangue
we need to fold 33 combinations

55 to 88 are 24 combos

it make sense bet here because we can make fold better hands and also protect against AQ AJ AT?

I think it is, we should bet half pot here has a bluff

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07-18-2019 , 02:25 PM
Fold pre. Open 77+ UTG only. 1/2 pot is too large OOP. Go 1/3 w/ range on this flop.
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07-18-2019 , 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Fold pre. Open 77+ UTG only. 1/2 pot is too large OOP. Go 1/3 w/ range on this flop.
what do you think about this rangue utg

77+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,AJo+,KQo

ass play we need less folds with 1/3 bet, better adaption here?
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07-18-2019 , 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sararaira
what do you think about this rangue utg

77+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,AJo+,KQo
It's fine although mine cut's out many of the Axs hands (I open A4s-A5s, A9s+), and I fold AJo and KQo nowadays while opening down to 65s if there are no shortstacks with position on me.
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07-18-2019 , 03:02 PM
You're discussing ranges in a vacuum. Pre flop stats become real very fast, and while this table is shaping up to be an amazing one to have a seat at, it's also a table in which you both need to tighten up your ranges in these early positions.

You need to cbet there. He's playing maybe 25% of hands here. This is a good but not great boars. Someone this nitty is very straightforward, generally speaking. He's folding a ton here on the flop. Out of the entire hand, this is where you gain and lose the most ev.

I like half pot.
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07-19-2019 , 08:17 PM
How do you watch yourself in the mirror with such disgusting nitty ranges? :P
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07-19-2019 , 11:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iblis
How do you watch yourself in the mirror with such disgusting nitty ranges? :P
OOP vs people who like to flat in multiple spots and donk flops into you multiway for large sizings. If somebody has a better defense against that type of play vs your EP opens other than playing extremely tight then I'm all ears! And I won't use larger RFI sizings than 3x as the opener. My standard BTN open range is about 47% so it all equals out in the end.
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07-20-2019 , 03:34 AM
being a nit UTG at 10nl is a great idea. People ****ing cold call so much and make your life impossible when you try to open too wide.

44 with a club could be barreled at some frequency in theory, but this hand is trash. Barreling with underpairs also gets you into some weird spots because villains are way too sticky at these limits, and we want to select hands with more equity potential than this one. We are probably not getting to showdown, and we don't want to turn it into a bluff, as we have much better hands in range to bluff with.

K93 TT is a good board for our range, but we aren't firing 100% in a cold called pot OOP. villain is also a 1/3 stacked fish. I pretty much as a rule bluff full stacked players when I'm trying to barrel off. Being in position to start running a bluff is also very helpful, actually the value of that really is immensely better than doing something like this.

Last edited by amazin lazer; 07-20-2019 at 03:41 AM.
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07-20-2019 , 06:40 AM
x fold flop
Quote:
Originally Posted by sararaira
he must fold 33% of better hands
no, just >33% of hands
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