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03-22-2018 , 06:06 AM
vs a reg

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($123.44BB) 123bb
UTG+1 ($100BB) 100bb
CO ($153.64BB) 154bb
BTN ($102.5BB) 103bb
SB ($100BB) 100bb
BB Hero ($108.34BB) 108bb

Pre-Flop: (1.5BB, 6 players) Hero is BB 9 9
2 folds, CO raises to 3BB, 2 folds, Hero calls 2BB

Flop: 9 J 7 ($6.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 4.62BB, Hero calls 4.62BB

Turn: Q ($15.74BB, 2)
Hero checks, CO bets 13.5BB, Hero calls 13.5BB

River: 5 ($42.74BB, 2)
Hero checks, CO goes all-in 132.52BB
Hero?
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03-22-2018 , 06:57 AM
I'd love to c/r OTF.
U can balance it with Tx,KQ,etc..

U really are at the top of ur range here. 86 might be the only better hand u can really have.

Not loving it but not folding it either.
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03-22-2018 , 07:23 AM
Raising flop pretty much always here. By flatting you assume CO can exploit you by having a weak XC range therefore you should be always calling this river otherwise you should have raised flop.

If you haven't considered what I said above, I can go either way tbh depends on reg. All I'm going to say is the typical reg doesn't 2X pot to try bluff two pair.
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03-22-2018 , 09:44 AM
Also c/r'ing flop. This is a board where I have a pretty significant bluffing range, and there are way, way too many cards that kill my action when I have something more nutted.

Not sure about what to do facing the 2x river overbet. I don't think we're at the tip-top of our range (KT, T8s, i.e.) but we need to defend ~33% of our range in theory and I have to imagine 99 is within that ~33%. Does the average villain underbluff this spot enough that we can get away with overfolding?
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03-22-2018 , 09:50 AM
No one else have this in their 3betting range here?

I’d definitely xr the flop. As played, river might be a fold unless he’s a table captain. People just don’t bluff like that enough at these stakes.
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03-22-2018 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyAndy27s
No one else have this in their 3betting range here?
50%
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03-22-2018 , 11:15 AM
Fair, granted my ranges are more merged as pool seems to underfold slightly in Zoom.
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03-22-2018 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyAndy27s
Fair, granted my ranges are more merged as pool seems to underfold slightly in Zoom.
Weird, we're in the same pool and I would say the opposite.
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03-22-2018 , 11:28 AM
Maybe it’s a relic of my hyper maniac stats

What’s your screenname? I wonder what weird and wonderful notes you have on me haha
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03-22-2018 , 12:58 PM
I agree with the x/r flop but a maths question; do we opt for a x/r with a smaller bet size from villain?

Say he had bet 2.8-3.4BB instead of the larger size, would we still be inclined to raise it instead of a call? The flop texture is obviously susceptible to becoming wetter but the bet strength implies a weaker holding on villain's part, raising may force him off the hand when we really want him to call and milk him for value. I'm uncertain about this kind of spot: what is optimal?
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03-22-2018 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyAndy27s
Maybe it’s a relic of my hyper maniac stats

What’s your screenname? I wonder what weird and wonderful notes you have on me haha
in my pt4 it says you 3-bet 69o, A7o and Q8o lol
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03-22-2018 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Feldheimer1
I agree with the x/r flop but a maths question; do we opt for a x/r with a smaller bet size from villain?
smaller he bets, the more your cr
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03-22-2018 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ojune
smaller he bets, the more your cr
I assume this is due to a range of factors?

Value, obviously.
Charging for draws.
Information as to relative hand strength.

Naturally I would have thought we'd want to x/r larger bets as they're possibly more indicative of villain wanting to continue with their hand. I can only guess that we may be less inclined to x/r in order to mask our strength, right?

I'm not convinced that I'd choose to x/r smaller bets over larger bets in this case though as there are some turns and rivers that we don't want to see. Is this more a case of playing the player instead of the cards or is there another factor we need to consider here (I'm 99% sure there is but not sure what exactly.)
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03-22-2018 , 03:06 PM
Small bets equals weaker range which means we can raise thiner for value
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03-22-2018 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ojune
Small bets equals weaker range which means we can raise thiner for value
Yeah you are probably ahead in that but aren't we just letting him dictate the price he can suck out on us for by calling? Or is it more likely we go for a turn or river raise?
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03-22-2018 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
in my pt4 it says you 3-bet 69o, A7o and Q8o lol
Ah, those were the days haha! Yeah that sounds like something I used to do Definitely not for the faint hearted though

Back to the hand, you can xr a wider range and possibly even use a slightly bigger sizing. You’d have to throw some semi bluffs and pair plus draw type hands in there too though.
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03-23-2018 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyAndy27s
Maybe it’s a relic of my hyper maniac stats

What’s your screenname? I wonder what weird and wonderful notes you have on me haha
Ohh, another 50NLzoomer... whats ur screenname? can also PM me

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yeah, 3betting at 50% freq...
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03-23-2018 , 09:57 AM
Yeah, I definitely degen preflop a lot less these days haha!
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