when this board runs out like this, combined with villians action, I think I will get decent folds on the river, his range seems pretty capped and not very strong. Moreover, I have the JT and AT blocker as well as the club flush blocker. However, should we be rather taking our showdown value, or is it ok to turn A high into a bluff here?
Villian is a 34/18 after 160 hands

villian is a donk. Your size folds out nothing you don't beat, maybe jt. Check river

You need to think about your overall range, and to the extent that you would xb flop with KQ/KJ, those will get priority for bluffing here.

Ac blocker would be a lot better here as well, way more likely to block V's river xr's.
Also blocking J9/J8 doesn't play in your favor here.

As mentioned you do have some SDV and V has a variety of hands he would be looking to xc this wet river with (88, 98, T8 possibly, 85s possibly, some 7x) so I lean towards give up.

I think it is good. You'll probably fold out some single pair hands. It isn't really the best bluff candidate, but I think most players over fold here. This guy will have junk like 52s and what not so you want to get him off those junk 1 pair hands.

Everything is said from the flop but why didnt you 3bet pre BvsB? If he plays 34/18, he will go to the flop with junk alot so exploit that. You will be good alot of the time and if he 4bets looking at his stats you make a tight fold. Its a passive guy so he shows aggression you know where you at.

Make your life easier at the tables by considering as much as possible before playing any hand

why dont we 3bet pre?

3bet PF..
I can't Help you because you should never be in this situation in the First place..

^ that's so 2008

3betting has to be better then calling, and when we are closing the action, get a good price, and would have to fold to a 4bet, i prefer calling. AJo does not have much playability when called other than flopping gutshots. I prefer to 3bet KJs. And just because you disagree with a preflop, regarding a hand that is the bottom of most people's valueranges, does not mean that anything that happens postflop is meaningless

I agree with your statement, but I also like to point out that villian isnt a very strong player, So I think I'm fine with beeing unbalaned and bluffing too much, If I think fold equity is high enough.

Really good point about not wanting to block J8 and J9, I didnt consider that.

Yeah I thought that given his passive line and how the board developed on the river, it would be hard for him to find enough hands to call. I know it isnt the best bluff candidate, but against this weak villian I thought that I didn'T have to worry about only picking the best bluffs and balancing my range. I thought that I could get Jx or 9x to fold, which decided to valuebet turn, and also some pairs that turned themselves into bluffs as well as pure air. Moreover, when there is a flush out there any 7 makes a straight, I don't think its impossible villian is folding 2 pair.
thanks for the feedback!

QUOTE=Andy Art;54180202]3betting has to be better then calling, and when we are closing the action, get a good price, and would have to fold to a 4bet, i prefer calling. AJo does not have much playability when called other than flopping gutshots. I prefer to 3bet KJs. And just because you disagree with a preflop, regarding a hand that is the bottom of most people's valueranges, does not mean that anything that happens postflop is meaningless[/QUOTE]


Yes.. it's meaningless..

But.. I can't Tell you How you should be balancing your Pre Flop range..

But If you are only raising AJo for bluff and playing likewise.. on the big blind position in a clear spot tha you have value or Edge against the opponent.. you have a leak on your game..

And despiste NL50 still nas a Lot of fish players.. your stats Will be captured by the other players..

Unless you're balancing your range with other hands..

With similar strenght..

And for the Guy that Said that this is so 2008.. well.. I should have had a coach from you then.. maybe you can update me about the news over the poker world..


Nonetheless.. you does not have a good hand to bluff in the River.. because in your calling range PF you Will have a Lot of better hands to do It.. só.. you're overbluffing..

Check back on the river.

Which ones?

I've asked my friend to put it in the piosolver so I could print an image, the thing is, I don't know how to post images here..

But, I was surpised, AJ is a bet on this river as played..

But the piosolver will raise almost 100% of the time PF..

I need to have this solver..