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04-23-2019 , 09:20 AM
After 90k hands at 10Nl my graph dose not look pretty.
Redline is +600$
Blue line is -500$
Yellow line -190$

Any advise where to focus to improve?
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04-23-2019 , 09:28 AM
wtf is yellow line
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04-23-2019 , 12:02 PM
i assume yellow in all-in ev?
aslo need more info like stats etc. hard to say where your leaks are with this info other then with showdown winnigns so low you are prolly bluffing to much.
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04-23-2019 , 12:06 PM
Post your stats, positional and overall

But yeah you're almost certainly a losing player

Your color lines should also be switched in signs at these steaks
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04-23-2019 , 12:42 PM
Moar stats
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04-23-2019 , 12:43 PM
Position Net won vpip prf 3bet wtsd w$sd agg

SB -242$ 21,9 18,6 9,99 35,5 54,5 2

BB -737$ 25,4 9,4 9,09 34,6 51,3 2

EP +264$ 16,5 16,5 33,6 55,6 2

MP +290$ 17,8 16,8 6,39 36,9 49,8 2

CO +127$ 24,3 22,2 9,12 37,5 49,2 2

BTN +279$ 35,9 32,0 10,2 36,2 48,8 2
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04-23-2019 , 02:03 PM
Your WTSD is way too high my dude. Try to get it down to 26 and see how you do

Gotta hit that fold button more or maybe bluff less. You'll know which you're not doing

Would like to see your RFI and f/t/r cbets, fold to cbets, and fold to 3 bets
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04-23-2019 , 02:07 PM
Do you have a pretty wide calling range in the BB? What's your 3-bet range? SB looks like you're playing OK there, but that seems like a lot of money in the BB.
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04-23-2019 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kvnd
Your WTSD is way too high my dude. Try to get it down to 26 and see how you do

Gotta hit that fold button more or maybe bluff less. You'll know which you're not doing

Would like to see your RFI and f/t/r cbets, fold to cbets, and fold to 3 bets

RFI: BU 51%, CO 27%, MP 18%, SB 38%

Cbet: flop 65%, turn 54%, river 70%

Fold to 3bets 33,5%

Flopp fold vs cbet 51%, turn fold 47%, river fold 44%
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04-23-2019 , 04:34 PM
Get your fold to 3 bet up to 55 - 60% and cbet flop less, probably go more polar. Get it down definitely below 50.
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04-24-2019 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kvnd
Get your fold to 3 bet up to 55 - 60% and cbet flop less, probably go more polar. Get it down definitely below 50.
Are you serious about cbetting below 50? :s

Im concerned because Ive had good results so far and Im cbetting way higher %
But my cbet % is 77.

I dont think I could ever pull it down to below 50!

/e

I play 6 max zoom
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04-24-2019 , 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by devmandarkk
Are you serious about cbetting below 50? :s

Im concerned because Ive had good results so far and Im cbetting way higher %
But my cbet % is 77.

I dont think I could ever pull it down to below 50!

/e

I play 6 max zoom
My cbet is 39 and I'm at 4.8 ev bb/100 over my last 90k hands
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04-24-2019 , 09:06 AM
Flop cbet should generally be around 50% or lower in 6-max.
Mine is at 42% and am making ~8bb/100.

It can be a bit higher if your opponents make specific mistakes, but 77% is deffinitelly too high.
You must be cbetting a very weird range: Mid pairs, min pairs, pocket pairs, complete garbage... even multiway?
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04-24-2019 , 01:35 PM
My cbet is 38, +~12bb/100 over 140k hands. Barreling into people who don't fold is a huge leak. how thinly are you betting flop.. any gutshot+, any bdfd+... Any two cards because you have a hunch they'll fold? Be honest, now.

If you have low fold equiy ie vs stations, blasting even the best draw (nfd/oesd) you have a 30% to hit it, it's a losing play right there. Now imagine how poor a 4-15% draw is to blast. So, unless you KNOW you're vs someone with high ftcb /fttb/ftrb , and exploiting, it's a massive leak.
Note, the lower your pfr the higher your cbet can naturally be, but, seems like ur av is about 20? Any cb above around 50 or so seems pretty airheavy and a good player is gonna start xr jamming u on flop/t/r nonstop.
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04-24-2019 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kvnd
Your WTSD is way too high my dude. Try to get it down to 26 and see how you do
My advice to you, OP, is to join a training site because you get advice like the above when you ask here. Even some YT vids are better.

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But my cbet % is 77
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My cbet is 39 and I'm at 4.8 ev bb/100 over my last 90k hands
and also because shockingly you shouldn't play to hit stats because both of the above styles can win even though both of those certainly aren't optimal.

It's much better to learn the underlying reason on why to do things instead of "omg my wtsd is 28...he said it should be 26".
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04-25-2019 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
Flop cbet should generally be around 50% or lower in 6-max.
Mine is at 42% and am making ~8bb/100.

It can be a bit higher if your opponents make specific mistakes, but 77% is deffinitelly too high.
You must be cbetting a very weird range: Mid pairs, min pairs, pocket pairs, complete garbage... even multiway?
I dont cbet multiway pots at all unless I have flopped an actual hand and more often then not I am betting for value. I will also cbet big draws i.e AKs with two overs and a nut flush draw etc in a multiway pot.

As for headsup pot which is what 90% of the hands are, I cbet if I get any piece except in boards which are absolutely soaking wet and where I know I havent got anything going for me. I cbet a smaller percentage of hands OOP around 69%. In headsup pots I will often bet:
mid pairs/top pairs +
straight/flush draws.
I bet two overs etc.

The wide majority of my cbets in position are based on fold equity and building a pot but also controlling the pot in position so I can checck down and see a free card when I want. I am VERY one and done in that regard but I am playing zone anonymous tables and so that is not something a person could exploit nor would I play so OND on regular tables vs an aware opponent. But, thus far I have felt that of the ev I give up in my major cbet, I am making up for in building pots which I do eventually improve etc in the turn/river.

@ the person who came in with the customary bull**** unhelpful response regarding aiming for numbers. Its not what any of us are doing. But some numbers can give insights into potential leaks especially when they are over larger samples not unlike mine which is a small sample.

I have been playing 5nl zone and I havent been studying much lately so there are many weaknesses and spots which I am struggling with such as my calling ranges from all positions vs all other positions etc. I almost find myself not having a calling range and being an agro 3 better i.e my 3bet percentage after ~25k hands this month is 9.3 which is substantially higher then most.

Stats this month on my return to poker. 5 nl zone.

Hands - 25k hands.
bb/100 - 7.37 bb/100
EV bb/100 - 8.86bb/100
VPIP - 20.7
PFR - 17.3 (note how close it is to VPIP hence I mentioned my nonexistent calling range. I feel like I am 3 betting for fold equity on more occasions and on hands which would net more EV by calling and playing post flop)
3Bet - 9.3%
WTSD - 26.4
Agg% - 35.8
AF - 3.3

C-bet% - 77.9%
C-bet% IP - 86.4%
C-bet% OOP - 69.1% (This is for sure a problem area)

Steal % - 23.3
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