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09-26-2017 , 09:12 PM
Should i quit playing poker asap?

Villan is playing 35/24 11 3bet in 1k hands (ask for more info if you want it)



    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: $55.92 (223.7 bb)
    SB: $30.70 (122.8 bb)
    BB: $13.55 (54.2 bb)
    MP: $16.65 (66.6 bb)
    Hero (CO): $80.94 (323.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K A
    MP folds, Hero raises to $0.62, BTN raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.88

    Flop: ($5.35) 7 A 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1.47, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $2.03

    Turn: ($12.35) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $5.86, BTN calls $5.86

    River: ($24.07) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $11.42, BTN raises to $44.06 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Results: $46.91 pot ($2.00 rake)
    Final Board: 7 A 5 K 2
    BTN mucked and won $44.91 ($21.63 net)
    Hero mucked K A and lost (-$23.28 net)
    NL25 200bbs AKs Quote
    09-26-2017 , 09:53 PM
    4-bet preflop
    Bigger otf if you're going to raise
    Bigger ott
    River's fine
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    09-26-2017 , 11:08 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by .isolated
    4-bet preflop
    Bigger otf if you're going to raise
    Bigger ott
    River's fine
    IMO:
    4bet why??
    If we raise otf it has to be small
    Yes i think bigger is better ott
    As played i think check calling river is better if im going to bet/fold wich i dont really hate too much but meh.
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    09-27-2017 , 12:42 AM
    Calling pre is fine.
    Dunno why u are raising OTF? (I mean, can't find enough bluffs here)
    Bigger OTT, yes.
    Fine AP. u obv target Ax and I think thats the biggest portion of V range.

    Any read from V's river plays?
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    09-27-2017 , 12:46 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AltoZZ
    Calling pre is fine.
    Well it's at least preferable to folding.
    Cutoff vs. Button. Button has an 11% 3-bet over 1k hands. 200bbs deep. AKs is a premium hand. *shrug*
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    09-27-2017 , 02:31 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AltoZZ
    Calling pre is fine.
    Dunno why u are raising OTF? (I mean, can't find enough bluffs here)
    Bigger OTT, yes.
    Fine AP. u obv target Ax and I think thats the biggest portion of V range.

    Any read from V's river plays?
    I assume he 1/3 pot cbets 100% of his range on this board.
    The reason i raise otf in this spot is mainly to gain the initiative and prevent him from pot controling on latter streets with his Ax's while also preventing hands like 88-KK (that will just shut down once called anyway) from realising equity. This sounds great to me but as you mention we hardly have any bluffs here and by x3'ing it we are almost overrepresenting our hand so thats why i decided to minraise, to make it look like a cheap stab at his bluffs/weaker hands, possibly making him feel compelled to defend some of it, while keeping his Ax's in a now a little bigger pot with the above beneffits.
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    09-27-2017 , 02:40 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by .isolated
    Well it's at least preferable to folding.
    Cutoff vs. Button. Button has an 11% 3-bet over 1k hands. 200bbs deep. AKs is a premium hand. *shrug*
    Im not sure we love playing a 4bet pot oop here all that much and i dont think i like playing for stacks preflop with AKs with 200bbs (i may be wrong and it is just the standard play) so if we are going to 4bet/fold i rather let him keep all the dominated hands on his range.
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    09-27-2017 , 05:23 AM
    His sizing is rather large for a 3-bet. For this reason I like flatting. On the flop I'd just call. As played, on the turn I'd probably bet larger. On the river don't fold. He can be bluffing and value betting with worse. You are only losing to AA, KK, and a sneaky backdoor club draw. AK, A7, A5, and A2 can all play this way. As a loose aggressive player, I believe he is capable of playing 98, 86, and 64 this way with the plan to bluff the backdoor clubs but get value on a str8. A lot of people check KK here on the flop by the way.
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    09-27-2017 , 06:45 AM
    1. Preflop is fine. I think both flatting and 4betting are plus EV plays. I dont undestand why you say "why 4bet". You have AK, a value hand, 4th best hand in holdem. It is clearly ahead of his 3betting range. Flatting is again fine taking into account stack size and oop.

    2. Flop is a Check-Call. You do not have bluffs there, none. You are Check-Raising sets and AK. You are basically over telling that you have a Value hand. You are 100% unbalanced by check-raising. I get you can get value out of AQ, Some AJ. Thats it. It still doesnt justify the c-r imo

    3. As played turn is fine. If you would have Check-Call the flop, the turn is great to Check-Raise. Now you have pair and flush draw, and combo straight and flush draw inserted into your range. If he checks back you can go for a river 3-4 bet in blanck rivers. Again as played it is fine.

    4. River sucks. I think bet-fold is fine. By check raising the flop you say you have a really strong hand. I dont think villain makes a play over you on the river.

    I think you put in that spot after misplaying the flop.
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    09-27-2017 , 10:53 AM
    I agree with what most said. I'm 4betting pre oop against an 11% 3bettor. As played call flop and make big turn bet. Why are we folding the river here? We're scared of the flush after a big 3bet pre from an 11% 3bettor? I'm calling against someone this loose.
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