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My 4bet Bluff turned into a tough turn spot 5NLz My 4bet Bluff turned into a tough turn spot 5NLz

03-26-2019 , 02:08 PM
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NL Holdem $0.05(BB)
SB ($13) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
BB ($5.35) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 100% | AGG: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 100% | Hands: 1]
UTG ($4.95) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
HERO ($5.54) [VPIP: 23.9% | PFR: 20.7% | AGG: 33.2% | 3-Bet: 14.2% | Hands: 113914]
CO ($4.95) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
BTN ($7.5) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]

Dealt to Hero: A Q

UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $0.12, CO Calls $0.12, BTN Calls $0.12, SB Calls $0.10, BB Raises To $0.34, HERO Raises To $0.91, CO Calls $0.79, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.57

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.36 effective]
Flop ($2.97): 4 3 5
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Checks

Turn ($2.97): 4 3 5 A
BB Bets $2.97 (Rem. Stack: 1.47), HERO ?
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03-26-2019 , 02:19 PM
Without any reads, I usually assume BB is doing this for value rather than just to squeeze with like a suited connector, at these stakes at least, so I typically flat or fold depending on villain with AQo.

As played, kinda seems like he's got an A, so AK is definitely part of his range here. If he's squeezing light, then maybe A2, A3, A4, A5, or 67 as well. Guess we have to think now if he could be doing this with AJ. You've also got one person behind you also. Maybe I'm too nitty, but I probably find a fold.
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03-26-2019 , 02:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markulous
Without any reads, I usually assume BB is doing this for value rather than just to squeeze with like a suited connector, at these stakes at least, so I typically flat or fold depending on villain with AQo.

As played, kinda seems like he's got an A, so AK is definitely part of his range here. If he's squeezing light, then maybe A2, A3, A4, A5, or 67 as well. Guess we have to think now if he could be doing this with AJ. You've also got one person behind you also. Maybe I'm too nitty, but I probably find a fold.
WRT to preflop I’m never calling. Not only does AQo play poorly in a very likely 3 way pot but we have the worst relative position. So it’s a 4bet or fold for me.

Edit: Actually BB has the worst relative position but AQo doesn't flop well so I think its a more profitable 4bet then call.

Last edited by DooDooPoker; 03-26-2019 at 02:38 PM.
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03-26-2019 , 02:26 PM
Yeah, which is why I typically fold readless from this position. AQs is a bit different. But I get the argument for 4-betting as this could be just a squeeze play with a wide range that you beat.
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03-26-2019 , 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markulous
Yeah, which is why I typically fold readless from this position. AQs is a bit different. But I get the argument for 4-betting as this could be just a squeeze play with a wide range that you beat.
Yeah I just expect CO to fold like always so when he cold called my 4bet i didn't know wtf to do.
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03-26-2019 , 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Yeah I just expect CO to fold like always so when he cold called my 4bet i didn't know wtf to do.
CO is likely a station and when you called, he figures more money in the pot so why not?
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03-26-2019 , 03:05 PM
This is a weird spot because BB's sizing is quite awful, so probably safe to assume he's either a fish or a very bad reg. Either way, his range is probably fairly tight

Think I might actually call this hand pre though because BB is a weak player giving you an absurd price, despite how poorly this hand tends to flop multiway. Though that might be all the more reason to try to isolate him with the upper part of your range
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03-26-2019 , 03:56 PM
As long as we don't fold we're good.

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03-26-2019 , 05:31 PM
These are the types of hands where I suspect collusion (or worse) is going on when I'm feel more paranoid.
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03-26-2019 , 06:39 PM
Just fold and forget about it.
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03-27-2019 , 10:58 AM
Agree with the 4b. Probably go broke now.
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