Do you play 6 tables or less?

Verneer, thank you for this thread.

This question goes back to your UTG notes above. Do I understand the excerpt correctly: with any PP other than KK+, flat call a 3-bet from a SB/BB to your UTG raise, when you have >500 hands on them and their 3-bet% is <3%. This is not to setmine, but because you might get to showdown; can easily get out of the way under pressure.

Is this different from exception 2; call any PP if 200BBs deep, but only if IP. I assume you say 200BB because we are now effectively setmining.

After an UTG R we can only be IP to a 3bet if the 3bet comes from SB/BB, so I'm not sure I understand the difference between these two scenarios.

I'd say only when there's some very active players left behind you who are going to be squeezing a lot?

That's one good scenario ...

Well ... your perceived ranged when raising from UTG is much stronger than if you are raising from the CO. So ... someone who only 3-bets KK+, AK to your UTG range will open up more vs. your CO (and even more vs. your BTN) range.

OK, what if this happens and we opened from EP? Call an option again?

Depends on how "A Game" I'm feeling. It can range from 10 tables down to 4, but 6 tabling is my default option.

Sorry, I didn't construct my question properly. If I raise UTG with 22-QQ and SB/BB on whom I have >500 hands and he 3bets <3%, do I flat or fold?

I understood your post on UTG ranges to say flat, and as I would normally fold in this position, I wanted to check with you.

I understand what your meaning.

It seems like verneer is suggesting we should flatcall a 3bet from SB/BB when we are UTG with 22-QQ. I don't think this is right. The guy's range is superstrong there (<3%) so I don't think we can profitable call with hands like 22-TT.


Or am I wrong?

Depends on the stacksize v 3 betsize no? If we have to invest less than 8-9% of stacks, it's a decent call if his range is supestrong and he stacks off on most flops.

Hmm, good point. I we open to 3x and villain is 3betting to 10BBs, then maybe it is +EV to setmine. His range is superstrong and against AKs,AKo we see a decent amount of showdowns. Plus we are IP.

Verneer:



our hero.



this thread is gold, and very inspring

As I mentioned earlier ... the 3-bet % is cumulative number. When playing from CO and especially the BTN, it helps to know what villains do vs. steals:



This, again, points to playing situational poker. I would imagine that the 3-bet stats are very different vs. CO/BTN opens than vs. UTG opens. So ... if over 500 hands villain's "3-bet defend vs. steal" is less than 3%, you can flat with pockets IP if the stack sizes are right. I would say 120 BB's + though.

There are quite a few seemingly nits who become monkeys if you open your BTN vs. their SB/BB.

~6 hours ago, i saw you at 10NL full ring on FTP, it was just practise?

Wanted to see how FR runs there. Might start mixing in some FR with 6-max to break things up and put in more volume.

Would you be able to give us a run down of what else you use in your HUD? Im always changing it around and still am not fully happy, so what would you reccommend?

Great Thread Verneer, just one question. How do you get so much time to teach/play make videos etc. Where do you get your $$ from? You slinging 'caine?

I get money from CardRunners for making videos + other random projects. This isn't all that much, but Katy and I live very much within our means and aren't big spenders.

It's amazing how little you need to earn to live happily in most places.

can u please recommend me something to improve my game\winrate?

thank you.

Impossible to tell from the info given. I did make a video (Episode # 5 for CardRunners' "Climbing Mt. Micro" series) that talked about my own HEM numbers and what I thought was important at 10NL where I played. If you are a CR member, I would encourage you to check it out.

Im a PT noob so i might not be the best person to comment but would like to see ur AF stats by streets, i bet u have hight flop AF and low turn AF.
Oh and most of all, u TILT too much and continue playing im sure. U have such big down slopes and it cant all be variance.
When u think u'r starting to tilt , quit ASAP. Dont try to get unstuck for the session/day b/c it obv only gets worse for you.

Hey guys! I want to get a sense for who all is reading this thread right now vs. in a few months. A lot of you are very active, but I would like to also get sense of who some of the lurkers are.

I'm going to ask you guys for some feedback, and it's going to be very easy. Just send me an e-mail to pokerxc@gmail.com with the subject "uNL in 2010". In the e-mail, just say "Hi! Greetings from ____." and let me know what country you're from and what site you play on. That would rock!

Note: I won't use your e-mail for any sort of mailing - that should go w/o saying. I just can't think of an easier way to get a sense of who all is reading this thread. I did think about twitter, but I'm not sure how many of you have a twitter account. Maybe add that as the third thing in your e-mail. Please let me know if you use Twitter.

I'll leave you with a funny comment I got in chat. If I ever don't respond to your chat comments it means I have too many tables going on and I missed it. I won't ignore you if I see it.

BIO. Rawr

So this is my first time really posting on this thread, but have been following. Someone asked when to fold trips, and I think I may have an example of a horrible fold lol...

Villain was running 16/12 over about 150 hands (nit reg) and for the life of me I can't remember when I've seen this kind of bet at 10NL with worse than top trips.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($5.16)
SB ($9.80)
Hero (BB) ($13.08)
UTG ($4.28)
MP ($10.66)
CO ($10.87)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, A
1 fold, MP bets $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) 5, 4, J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($0.60) 8 (3 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold

River: ($1.40) J (2 players)
SB bets $2.30, Hero folds

Total pot: $1.40


Fishy fold? Maybe..

Thats what I figured.