Flop - Thoughts on XR for value/protection? I figure we want to call more against a polarizing size, but wasn't entirely sure.

River - Good enough to bet for value, or just x/c (depending on how much they bet)?


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NL Holdem 0.50(BB)
HERO ($54.77)
CO ($60.22) [VPIP: 14.3% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 8]
BTN ($59.88) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 8]
SB ($53.94) [VPIP: 28.6% | PFR: 28.6% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 8]
BB ($166.36) [VPIP: 62.5% | PFR: 37.5% | AGG: 27.3% | Hands: 8]

Dealt to Hero: A T

HERO Raises To $1.25, CO Calls $1.25, BTN Calls $1.25, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.75

Hero SPR on Flop: [10.19 effective]
Flop ($5.25): 7 A T
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Checks, BTN Bets $4.99 (Rem. Stack: $53.64), BB Folds, HERO Calls $4.99 (Rem. Stack: $48.53), CO Folds

Turn ($15.23): 7 A T 6
HERO Checks, BTN Checks

River ($15.23): 7 A T 6 7
HERO (Rem. Stack: $39.27)

I think flop c/r is overplaying, maybe would against a smaller size but we probably wanna be doing very little if any c/r vs a psb on this board. I think bet folding 10$ on the river looks pretty good.

There isn't a c r flop

I'm definitely betting river

Pretty interesting spot on the river. Flop is def not a raise - very scary potting into 3 other players. On the river, what worse hands (that pot flop) call you? I guess he could have Ax that wanted to win on the flop?

I'm inclined to either c/c or bet dinky (like $4) to induce or get value from some weird weaker hands that decided to mash flop.

+1 but checking here to induce a bluff isn't the worst idea and definitely gives pot control in the event villain is sneaky as an added advantage for all the nits

should be able to block AQ and better
and xc or xf rest of Ax

+1
I would check/call here. after check turn and river people tend to overplay a lots of hands. Also a good reg will bluff with busted flush draws here.

In my view, if you x/r flop, it is mainly to have some bluffs if the 4 to the flush hits. You're effectively raising against two players who could easily have over 50% of their range being suited, which is pretty high proportion of flushes. They could also have 77 and possibly TT, so my guess is that if you raise flop, at least 10% of CO range is ahead of you, and seen as BTN's range has been considerably narrowed down, I'd say it will be a lot higher proportion than 10% that is ahead of you. On that basis, I think that whilst you can knock out some lower FD from CO that would otherwise call, and you will get called by some worse hands (mainly FD), I don't think your hand will have very high equity against a calling range that will include sets, flushes, high FDs, and maybe some pair+FD or straight+flush draw. In my view, the x/r otf wouldn't really be for value, but mainly for some protection (as you will knock out some low FDs, although there won't be that many as neither villain should have many offsuit hands other than pairs with a card below Q) or to have some potential bluffs should a 4 to the flush hit, but mainly to have some potential bluffs.

Otr, I'd go for a x/c, as villain should have a decent amount of missed FDs he would like to bluff with, but I think a bet will be equally effective.

V ranges definitely don't have a lot of flushes. Even if 60% of their pf range is suited, that means 15% is dd, except the majority of those are blocked by the board. Most notably all Ax, but also all the broadways except jq jk qk, also 67 78 and 9T are blocked. If he has the k flush you'd expect him to bet turn probably

So if vs value range otf is only flushes then he should probably be bet bet beting with his tiny, polarized range. I think v has a better strategy of betting his marginal made hands with 1 heart, then he can defend a x/c range on the turn. All those hands are going to be calling us otr, but many will x back if able. But yall also right that he has a bunch of busted 1 card hearts he can bluff and our hand strength is somewhat under repped. so I'm not too fussed about going either way otr

Edit: every time I said heart I meant diamond obvs

Had the reverse occur with me at 25nl. 5 players multiway 3bet pot.

The two pair checked the flop, I had the nut flush draw. Apparently, he was checking to the raiser, whom refused to cbet.

I get the nut flush on turn, put in less the 1/2 pot bet (SB), BB shoves with his two pair (definitely not having to do with any suit on board), kills my action. Win big pot though.

The beauty is that flopping a flush is 10% or less. This gives two pair hands and sets the advantage.

I agree a x/c river is the way to go.

I ended up betting $9 and change, and he

good, we have weaker hands to xc
2/3p bit too much seeing as there are flushes and boats and straights possible

/true

you think between $6 and $8

around 5 I'd go
same sizing I'd use with AQ, as well as boats/flushes
flop's a range x for us 4way, but we xc a psb and by the river a lot of what wasn't too good otf got there so what are we going to bet big and hope to get thin value
I mean unless you know he's a station