Of all the hands I played, the monotone board is the one that always intrigues me the most. V seems pretty tight passive so far.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 168.8 BB (VPIP: 35.31, PFR: 23.89, 3Bet Preflop: 13.48, Hands: 492)
Hero (MP): 158.6 BB
CO: 124.7 BB (VPIP: 18.80, PFR: 8.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 124)
BTN: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 35.15, PFR: 21.36, 3Bet Preflop: 10.29, Hands: 531)
SB: 82.8 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: 53.5 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) J 9 6
Hero checks, CO bets 10 BB

So what are we continuing with facing an overbet, QQ+ with a heart, sets, flushes, and KhX and AhX?

I think we cbet range for 1/3 PSB. As played yeah just muck it as weird as it sounds.

Edit: not actually sure of the best strategy here. I’ll ask one of my coaches tonight about this hand and relay the message.

'Pretty tight passive' doesn't really mean much, do people not write notes anymore?

Probably just gonna have to call with AA. Agree about the pointless adjectives. I would want to know how many times he'd overbet float.

No

call flop, he'll most likely slow down on turn & river

It's a tricky spot to split your bet and check range, but I think check with most of your nut flushes (AhKh/AhQh/AhTh), AhJx. bet with non-nut flushes, sets, QQ+ with a heart.

For KK/AA, bet with heart? KK/AA no heart can go for delayed cbet and x/c once.

Forgive me, I have only 124 hands on him so no, I don't have notes on V yet other than general pre flop stats. 18/8/0 in 124 hands and haven't seen a showdown hand. He bets when checked to; about as vague as it gets. I suppose the tight passivity would only apply to his pre flop game.

In any respect, I just think this is pretty clear that AA with no heart sucks on this board facing an overbet otf. Every option pretty much sucks against a relative unknown.

Edit: this is the first time V overbet.

It occurred to me that CO will not have many offsuit hands, and almost no naked Ahx hands except the AhQx.

I think it's okay to exploit fold and thank God it's a SRP.

My thoughts, as well.

This is a trivial range check.

What's to stop him taking a low equity or Jx hand and overbetting? Who's to say he'll follow through? You're effectively folding to bets that haven't been made.

This is true, but vs unknown at 10NL it’s prolly fine to exploitively fold here. This spot feels like vil is going to have a hard time balancing this with enough bluffs for this call to actually be profitable in the long run tho.


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If he's committedly polarised then I agree we'd do well to just fold now. We need him to stop barrelling to win. My main concern is that he could be making an lol protection bet, then once you call may smarten up and realise our range is well protected and is too strong to continue betting into, likewise with his reckless stabs.

Folding saves hassle and we have better bluffcatchers but summary would be that by calling we commit 10bb not ~150bb. I could get behind fold if I could be bothered to open equilab and see we were defending at least a somewhat sensible number of hands to what Nick Howard would call a volatile profile. Like this is unconventional regardless of what he's doing and with no reads, not trying to get too exploitative until a later street or I have a better idea whats up

Snap call imo. Am I a station?

not range betting this flop like ever.

Im straight up folding flop.

I did fold, it just felt so strange, but correct, at the time because I have never folded AA in a SRP to one bet before.

Well this is why people need to stop with this "theorists and solvers say you shouldnt bet mono flops and wait till the turn blah blah". People are getting straight up punked on mono flops and I want a piece of the action.

Monotone flops are so rare though and likely why they are such an enigma to people. And fwiw I don't use a solver.

I get wanting immediate folds, as you mentioned in the other thread, but, I care zero about my redline. I just want to know what's most profitable. Bottom line, this flop sucks for AA without a heart and why I checked and his bet size made me indifferent. If he flopped a set or flush he played it horribly. If he turned top pair into a bluff, he also likely played it pretty bad, imho.

This over bet seems like the villain is saying "I want you to go away''. If he is tight passive and have a big hand like set+, why would he over bet the pot? Notice that his 3bet pre is 0, so he is very likely to have TT, QQ,KK plus AJ and his OB makes sense.