Can anyone give me tips/how to think about this min-raising? Some players are doing this and some times when I call they just completely stop on next street, i.e. its a bluff and they are trying to trick me into thinking they are really strong. Which might work because so often on this level V is in fact super strong when raising (?).

In this case I decide to float with my two overs, and suspecting V is doing as explained over.

how often is this real strength and how often is it a bluff?

You can just fold to the raise tbh

it's fine with the bdfd, you need hands that call flop and fold turn

we don't *need* anything.

ya we do

No we don't

ya we do unless we don't care about playing well and our goal is playing 10nl forever

These lines are usually raise fold lines. Maybe not in EP but I tend to shove light in these spots.

He can fold to the raise because he is likely behind and his equity is not high enough to call as he won't be able to realize much of it at all. This is especially true @ the micro stakes in a 3bp where he raised vs an utg open, c-bets on a board texture that is pretty good for the UTG flat range and gets raised--just fold.

You can talk about balance as much as you want, but it is not always relevant and we should be utilizing the information we have available to make the highest EV plays possible.

Some people only raise call draws in spots like these.

There are quite a few textures in 3bp that I either jam light or jam merged. And before you say about the limit etc, fish play like fish regardless of the limit. And if regs sometimes only raise call draws, do you really think they’ll play spots that much different at 10z? I don’t think so.

(Just to clarify, I don’t necessarily mean this spot but it’s good food for thought imo.)

We're getting close 1 to 5 I think we're gonna be fine realizing enough equity

Not sure which way I'm leaning on the flop bet/call vs. bet/fold, but... check flop? Can't imagine we want to do a ton of betting on this texture OOP in a 3-bet pot. Kind of prefer using flush draws, ATs, QTs (if we have it) for potential double barrels.

Personally I would check on this flop and possibly call a bet. I'm not trying to build a large pot oop with overcards but we are good sometimes on this flop texture and we have decent backdoor draws.
These type of min raises are pretty polarizing. Villain is going to have an unmade hand or a strong hand most of the time. In any case if you decide it's a bluff or semi-bluff you need a plan for the turn. Calling with ace high and then folding to a turn barrel on a somewhat inconsequential card is pretty bad imo. Admittedly 109 got there but again we shouldn't be calling otf and then folding ott on the basis of 16 combos which are possibly not even in villain's range.

+1

Flop is bad for our range so we should be checking here pretty often and probably sizing up when we do bet. I'd put this hand in my x/c range with the intention of betting all turns when V checks and x/f when we don't pick up equity.

Flop really isn't bad for our range, villain shouldn't have 2 pairs maybe not 66 and not many Jx while we have all overpairs and he doesn't.

having a bdfd we should bet most of the time imo

True, flop isn't horrible for our range but its a board where V is going to have a lot of hands that will continue and not that many turn cards which are good for us. Some of the cards which improve our equity are also going to improve V more substantially. We have SDV and some disguised equity OOP, so I'd prefer to x/c and pot control.

Thank you.

Why would you check the flop though? Too wet?

[QUOTE=Ojune;53616841 maybe not 66[/QUOTE]

What?

You bet too much OTF (SPR post)and too small preflop (eff stack >110bb)

XC OTF or betting 1/3 (planing on more barrels) are similar EV

Citation needed. Esp given we don't know how much villain will bet I don't see how you can make such a definitive statement.

check call is the way to go. And yeah more pre less otf

glgl

That's true .iso, i was generally speaking but we do need to seize that so we can note which one is better

What should the PF 3bet be?

normally (100 bb eff stx) 1.10-1.15
Here we could go 1.25 (we r deep)

glgl