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07-17-2018 , 05:41 AM
so, wanted to know if this is spew. I know my sizing on river is somewhat small, I wanted a good price on a bluff, and got a bit carried away. Delayed c-bet, decided to fire again when it seemed like villain's range was pretty capped, and that he might check behind some hands that wouldn't call a bet that beat us, especially considering the board is pretty devoid of draws. Seems like we can also be value betting with a pretty decent amount of hands 2 streets after checking as the aggressor on 3rd street.

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NL Holdem $0.05(BB)
HERO ($6.8) [VPIP: 29.6% | PFR: 18.8% | AGG: 29% | 3-Bet: 7.7% | Hands: 31448]
BB ($3.96) [VPIP: 61.1% | PFR: 50% | AGG: 77.3% | 3-Bet: 40% | Hands: 18]
HJ ($6.03) [VPIP: 46.9% | PFR: 12.5% | AGG: 34.4% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 33]
CO ($3.44) [VPIP: 31.3% | PFR: 6.3% | AGG: 19% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 32]
BTN ($11.52) [VPIP: 48% | PFR: 32% | AGG: 24.5% | 3-Bet: 6.3% | Hands: 50]

Dealt to Hero: 2 2

HJ Folds, CO Calls $0.05, BTN Raises To $0.17, HERO Raises To $0.49, BB Folds, CO Calls $0.44, BTN Calls $0.32

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.94 effective]
Flop ($1.52): 8 Q A
HERO Checks, CO Checks, BTN Checks

Turn ($1.52): 8 Q A 7
HERO Bets $0.83 (Rem. Stack: 5.48), CO Folds, BTN Calls $0.83 (Rem. Stack: 10.20)

River ($3.18): 8 Q A 7 6
HERO Bets $1.24 (Rem. Stack: 4.24), BTN Folds

Spoiler:

HERO wins: $3.03
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07-17-2018 , 06:00 AM
22 is in my 3b range sb vs btn but with a limper i probably just muck it. AP I'm not sure whats best OTF but im probably betting.

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07-17-2018 , 08:41 AM
fold pre
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07-17-2018 , 10:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikk
22 is in my 3b range sb vs btn
It really shouldn’t be
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07-17-2018 , 10:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whitemares
It really shouldn’t be
I've not studied the latest literature on this since I developed it years ago, but all PP's could certainly be part of a valid 3b range of around 18% when I last looked. I appreciate that this could be outdated now though.

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07-17-2018 , 11:02 AM
They play terribly in 3bps though. Against vs who fold to much pre and otf it might not be bad, but, against competent Vs, you're gonna end up spewing if they ever catch you doing it.
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07-17-2018 , 10:48 PM
Yeah they play pretty badly. Their ability to realize equity is terrible, since you’re OOP and just about every hand in villain’s preflop defending range either crushes you or has significant equity

I think preflop might be a call against two fish
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07-18-2018 , 07:00 AM
From the BB, I agree w/ you. Still prob just fold out of the SB.
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07-18-2018 , 09:04 PM
thankyou for the input, guys! I will remove 22 from my 3-bet range in SB, seems like I put myself in a marginal spot here, the way the hand played out is evidence of everything that you mentioned. Trying to tighten up from OOP, still trying to pretty much only 3! or fold from SB, having some decent success with stopping the bleeding in SB that way, but I still need to be selective, and patient.
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07-18-2018 , 09:06 PM
Fold pre not close. Might jus re is 77+, kinda depends on co and btn obv. Weaker pp could potentially be ok as calls but might not be for this price oop


22 is a sht hand
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