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Originally Posted by sinnaJ
Actually took the time to look this up in case I remembered something wrong here:
Preflop Guru preflop solves:
Rakestructure 5% 3bb cap, Preflop 3bets+ raked
Open size 2.2
In this structure BU has 0% flatting range vs any position open.
What we learn from this:
Dont just imitate what pros are doing on Nl500
Take rake serious and educate yourself about adjustments to rake
Micros are literally a different game because of rake structure which is a shame
Don't take drawing out of poker. Drawing is part of the game and drawing involves some flatting sometimes.
You'all aggro only-raisers need us flatters to call too much, and us small-ballers need you aggro only-raisers to overplay your weak top pair hands. It is all part of the game.
Playing poker like a computer is ...blech.
So the computer says never flat?
And the computer says open for 2.2bb? (BTW this phenomenon of min-raising is great for small ballers because it makes it so much easier to call with bs like pocket 4's and 86s).
I know I'm old school, but whatever happened to the idea that "poker is about position and people?"
What about open-raising big against the fish who is on tilt? Is that ok? Or does the computer say no?
What about taking the pot away from someone using just position?
That's poker. But a computer can't really tell you how to do that.
Playing poker like a computer is like playing blackjack with a hit/stand chart, only in blackjack that makes sense because there is no human element and it's all math.
1. Rake is just one factor, of many. A fairly minor consideration, imo.
2. There may be situations in which it makes sense to raise more than 2.2x, or less than that.
3. There may be situations in which flatting is more profitable than folding or 3 betting.
4. A lot of this is very opponent specific and game specific. That's poker.
5. I think what I am talking about is the difference between what has been called vacuum EV and long term EV.
NL is about stacking MF'ers and you don't do that by 3 betting AJ off suit out of position, you do that by getting your money in with "better-than-top-pair" and cracking the better pre-flop hand. Hands like QTs and 87s are perfect for this. Playing like this is going to require sometimes calling into pots when you know that you don't currently have the best hand and it may require drawing, post-flop. Whether you want to draw or not depends on a whole host of other factors. It takes guts and judgment. That's poker.
Always folding KJs on the button versus any raise and any opponent is no better than always calling with it. Both extremes are bad poker.
Magnum