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03-13-2018 , 01:05 PM
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $2.00
SB: $2.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: $1.70 (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: $2.14 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
MP: $2.53 (VPIP: 24.12, PFR: 15.35, 3Bet Preflop: 5.75, Hands: 239)
CO: $0.92 (VPIP: 19.64, PFR: 19.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 59)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.05, SB raises to $0.18, fold, Hero calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.38, 2 players) 9 3 5
SB bets $0.18, Hero?

Fold after the 3b or 4b? Is calling ok? Also can we cont on the flop?
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03-13-2018 , 01:14 PM
This is a spot where i hear different suggestions often between calling and 4betting. Curious as well. I often throw this into my 4betrange because calling seems marginal to me(you definetly need to be well postflop) and the hand has good blockers. But im definetly curious what better players than me will suggest.

I do not really think that you need a default 4betbluffrange at NL2
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03-13-2018 , 03:07 PM
pass
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03-13-2018 , 03:10 PM
You need to call preflop or you won't be defending near often enough

Flop is an easy fold
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03-13-2018 , 11:47 PM
The only time I’m doing anything other than calling with this hand is if the player has a 1% 3bet or I’m trying to utilise a randomised 4bet strategy against Libratus!

I’m actually in the call or exploit raise camp on the flop- I think if we fold this hand type here, we’re overfolding.
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03-14-2018 , 12:49 AM
Fold vs unknown. I mean flop's probably a fold vs most players but vs an unknown it's best to let it go. You only have over's and the tiniest bit of a backdoor straight draw.
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03-14-2018 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy Art
I do not really think that you need a default 4betbluffrange at NL2
You need one on WPN vs the good regs 100%. Trust me I've probably played 150k hands at 2NL there and to thoroughly beat it you need 4 bet bluff. But you need a very well-balanced range to pull it off.

On Ignition you can mostly play as unbalanced as you want. On ACR if you table select constantly you get one, maaayybe two fish on the table and the rest are regs. On Ignition it's the opposite, most tables are all huge whales and if you get a reg they usually suck lol

Last edited by WorldzMine; 03-14-2018 at 01:04 AM.
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03-14-2018 , 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
You need one on WPN vs the good regs 100%. Trust me I've probably played 150k hands at 2NL there and to thoroughly beat it you need 4 bet bluff. But you need a very well-balanced range to pull it off.

On Ignition you can mostly play as unbalanced as you want. On ACR if you table select constantly you get one, maaayybe two fish on the table and the rest are regs. On Ignition it's the opposite, most tables are all huge whales and if you get a reg they usually suck lol
This is fascinating... do the micros on wpn play like stars 100nl/200nl ten years ago?

Also what is your 4b range in this spot.
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03-14-2018 , 03:57 AM
This is a spot where you need information. You not having it is what it is. So you gotta fold flop.
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03-14-2018 , 06:30 AM
Calling flop w/ Khearts.
Fold AP
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03-14-2018 , 06:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldzMine
You need one on WPN vs the good regs 100%. Trust me I've probably played 150k hands at 2NL there and to thoroughly beat it you need 4 bet bluff. But you need a very well-balanced range to pull it off.

On Ignition you can mostly play as unbalanced as you want. On ACR if you table select constantly you get one, maaayybe two fish on the table and the rest are regs. On Ignition it's the opposite, most tables are all huge whales and if you get a reg they usually suck lol
I meant vs unknowns. Agree with anything you said. Having no 4betbluffrange against regs is obviously a mistake.
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03-16-2018 , 05:33 AM
fold flop, pre is standard
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03-16-2018 , 03:45 PM
Pre is fine and just fold flop.
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