KK with low SPR on dangerous turn - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy Online No-Limit Hold’em Cash

KK with low SPR on dangerous turn

Post Reply Subscribe

...

12-16-2018 , 12:55 AM

JohnRusty

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 2,755

I expect a lot of AT and A9 to be here, which sucks, but there's also a lot of draws and flush draws, is it time to GII?

NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
UTG ($22.03) [VPIP: 53.8% | PFR: 7.7% | AGG: 18.8% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 13]
HJ ($32.25) [VPIP: 30.8% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 13]
HERO ($27.35) [VPIP: 28.2% | PFR: 21.9% | AGG: 38.5% | 3-Bet: 9.2% | Hands: 47643]
BTN ($20.67) [VPIP: 38.5% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 13]
SB ($11.89) [VPIP: 46.2% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 38.5% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 13]
BB ($16.51) [VPIP: 69.2% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 29.4% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 13]

Dealt to Hero: K

UTG Calls $0.25, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $1.10, BTN Calls $1.10, SB Calls $1, BB Folds, UTG Calls $0.85

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.32 effective]
Flop ($4.65): T

SB Checks, UTG Bets $0.75 (Rem. Stack: 20.18), HERO Raises To $5 (Rem. Stack: 21.25), BTN Calls $5 (Rem. Stack: 14.57), SB Folds, UTG Calls $4.25 (Rem. Stack: 15.93)

Turn ($19.65): T

UTG Checks

Quote

12-16-2018 , 01:11 PM

DooDooPoker

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18,582

Check

Quote

12-16-2018 , 02:46 PM

AlanBostick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,482

Don't raise the flop. This board hits everyone's range hard, and our actual hand, while good, is not great. We do block diamond draws somewhat and straight draws pretty hard.

As played, your raise has created a situation where you pretty much have to get it in no matter what. You are slightly better off calling a shove than shoving, because of the possibility that an opponent might have some air in their range, but is certainly not going to call a shove with air.

I would check-call and expect to lose, but not often enough that we aren't profiting.

Quote

12-16-2018 , 02:49 PM

.isolated

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

Gotta jam here. Button/UTG would've shoved anything better and we only fear ATdd.

Quote

12-16-2018 , 03:21 PM

JohnRusty

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 2,755

Quote:

Originally Posted by .isolated

Gotta jam here. Button/UTG would've shoved anything better and we only fear ATdd.

What about plain old AdXd?

Quote

12-16-2018 , 04:21 PM

WorldzMine

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,604

Don't raise flop; x/f now-- this is a spot where people use math incorrectly and rationalistically (i.e., disregarding all context) to make horrible calls.

Quote

12-16-2018 , 06:22 PM

.isolated

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnRusty

What about plain old AdXd?

Nope. Those shove flop but the pair+draw doesn't shove flop because it has sdv.

Quote

12-16-2018 , 07:44 PM

Paraquat

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by .isolated

Nope. Those shove flop but the pair+draw doesn't shove flop because it has sdv.

And hero blocks Kd.

This turn doesn't really hit their calling range hard(but still does), but if you came up with idea of raising nut FD on this flop, now you have toppair, and they will be less happy calling you off, if they somehow would with worse

Quote

12-16-2018 , 08:35 PM

.isolated

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paraquat

And hero blocks Kd.

Yeah, I see that.

Quote

12-16-2018 , 08:46 PM

#10

Paraquat

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by .isolated

Yeah, I see that.

Misread your post, my bad :c

Quote

12-16-2018 , 08:59 PM

#11

ArtyMcFly

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

This is a really tricky spot, as UTG's stupid limp, stupid donkbet, and stupid overcall of the raise ****ed everything up. I'm much more concerned by the BTN's cold call of the flop raise. I think we should check the turn and sigh-fold if BTN bets. (He bets sets, 2pr and Axdd, but probably checks back QJs/87s).

Quote

12-16-2018 , 09:10 PM

#12

Flpmethntsdlr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 3,918

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

Nailed it.

Quote

12-17-2018 , 01:11 PM

#13

AlanBostick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,482

It's a multiway pot. Leading out isn't necessarily stupid. Hero is going to be checking this flop with a significant part of their range.

Quote

12-17-2018 , 01:28 PM

#14

ChipsNcrisps

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 4,946

agreed

Quote

12-17-2018 , 02:06 PM

#15

ArtyMcFly

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

It's more the sizing that irritates me. Limp-calling and then donking 16% of pot seems silly. I can get behind going for one third of pot, but 3bb is almost like a check.

Quote

Post Reply Subscribe

...