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Old 03-13-2013, 10:13 PM   #1
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JJ flopped set; drawy board on turn at 400NL

Looking for some feedback on flop and turn play on this hand:

Villain (SB) $241.75 - VP:41 PFR:6 AF:Inf. Hands:17
Big Blind $203
UTG $104.25 - VP:67 PFR:0 Hands:15
Hijack $35.60
Hero (CO) $195.15 - VP:20 PFR:13 AF:2.6 Hands 100
Button $194

Hero has J J:

Pre Flop: UTG calls $2, fold, Hero in CO raises to $9, fold, SB calls, fold, fold. 2 players to flop.

Flop ($22): 9 J A

Action: Villain leads out with a pot sized bet of $22.

Raise now? If so, how much? Or just call and pounce later?

OK, so I flopped a set of Jacks. Liking that! I have position. There are some draws here, both flush and straight. Not liking those! But the main objective seems to be how to manage the pot size so I can ship it all in by the river without having to overbet the pot.

If I call here, the pot will be $66, and I'll have $164 behind. If Villain slows down and checks the turn, I could bet approx 72% of the pot on both streets to get it all in. On the other hand, if Villain wants to shovel more chips in voluntarily, let him do it.

I call.

Turn ($66): K

Now there are two flush draws. Villain checks.

Bet now? Seems pretty obvious. How much?

Villain's range seems pretty narrow to me. Ax hands, 99. QT just made a straight and would bet for value and to charge the flush draws. AK, AJ, A9 also likely bet again for the same reason. Two spades? Maybe KQss decides to check for pot control. Otherwise what spade combo would have called pre-flop? Maybe KT?

I bet $47, consistent with my plan to build the pot for an all-in river bet.

Now Villain check-raises all-in himself.

Hero?

I think this is an insta-call. The only hands I am behind are AA, KK and QT. Would Villain flat call AA from the small blind, then donk bet this flop? Would he flat call KK and not be frozen by this flop? Would he check the turn and risk giving away a free card on this board with QT? Even with Villain's very limited but fishy stats (41/6 after 17 hands), am I ever not good here?

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Old 03-14-2013, 01:28 AM   #2
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Re: JJ flopped set; drawy board on turn at 400NL

flop is whatever. turn bet is good, you could go a little bigger though. now fistpump and call the c/r
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:56 AM   #3
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Re: JJ flopped set; drawy board on turn at 400NL

Im going with this hand 100% of the time. Never folding. Fistpumpcall
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:22 AM   #4
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Re: JJ flopped set; drawy board on turn at 400NL

This is about the best hand to raise with on the flop. Most draws will play aggressively against your raise and Ax is certainly not folding.

On the turn, definitely bet. He'll be folding rarely and there is plenty worse from which you can get value. Given your description of the player and how strong your hand is, certainly call it off when he shoves. He could have A9 or 99 as well as some combination draws, and you crush that range. Even if he has QT a lot of the time, which is less common since he could probably just get more value by leading three times, you still have equity against it.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:08 AM   #5
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Re: JJ flopped set; drawy board on turn at 400NL

how is this an MSNL post?
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:15 AM   #6
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Re: JJ flopped set; drawy board on turn at 400NL

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how is this an MSNL post?
Sorry if I put this in the wrong section. Maybe belongs in small stakes, was 200 NL not 400 as indicated in title. My bad.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:44 PM   #7
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Re: JJ flopped set; drawy board on turn at 400NL

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Sorry if I put this in the wrong section. Maybe belongs in small stakes, was 200 NL not 400 as indicated in title. My bad.
i meant that the decisions were not close at all, rather than the stakes were too small. Raise flop, call now - how can there be any other answer?
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:42 AM   #8
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umm he plays 20/13 he is no ivey im sure
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Old 03-15-2013, 02:46 PM   #9
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Re: JJ flopped set; drawy board on turn at 400NL

Raise flop. Board is pretty wet, Villain potted flop and we have set. Pretty sure they are never pot bet/folding flop.

As played, snap calling turn. Oh, and move down if you're unsure on this spot, seems pretty standard spot imo.
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