Villain is TAG

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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UTG: $32.33 (129 bb)
MP: $31.01 (124 bb)
CO (Hero): $25.60 (102 bb)
BU: $28.34 (113 bb)
SB: $27.73 (111 bb)
BB: $40.54 (162 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A♥ A♣
2 players fold, Hero raises to $0.62, 1 fold, SB 3-bets to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero 4-bets to $5.50, SB calls $3.25

Flop: ($11.25) J♣ K♥ 5♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.22, SB calls $3.22

Turn: ($17.69) 4♣ (2 players)
SB checks, [b][color=#C51F1F]Hero ?

You're 100bb deep in a 4b pot with AA and an SPR < 1

What's the question?

I block tptk and club draws, just hoping for herocall villain may not provide, and with ac club runouts are rather safe

you can also check turn and jam river but never fold or check twice

Both JJ and KK are in V's 4 bet calling range generally. His flop play doesnt eliminate these hands. I dont think V should have many FD in range unless she has AKs/AQs. You have less than a pot sized bet left so your betting options are limited across turn & river.

Will better hands fold? No. KK and JJ are calling a jam.
Will worse hands call? Yes AK, AcQc and QQ probably call given SPR. Deeper I think QQ considers folding depending on SPR. I think TT folds.

Here you are either way ahead or way behind. IMHO in these way ahead/way behind scenarios we want to X. You are IP and can evaluate the turn card and V's behavior on river.

JJ and KK should be shipping it pre at 100bb, although I suspect most players in these pools are flatting JJ more often.

As for wanting to check behind. What are you doing with a hand like AQo or ATs?

I'm probably flatting those two hands pre IP vs SB.

As played, we certainly have less SDV with those hands than with AA. But if I think about betting turn with AQo or ATs I ask myself:

Will better hands fold? No. KK and JJ are calling a jam. KK, JJ, Kx and Jx are calling a bet.
Will worse hands call? Cant find a worse hand that will call.

With both of these drawing hands vs V's 4bet calling range I'm inclined to X behind to take a free card and hope to improve on the river. I dont think a lot of V call a cbet in a 4! pot with nothing.

Villain is not IP

He's in the SB

He shouldn't really have JJ (but might), and he should never have KK. So he really shouldn't have many better hands.

Also you ask will better hands fold, and then say Kx and Jx are calling a bet. But then say you can't find a worse hand that will call.

Kx and Jx are both worse hands.

I think as the only river cards that have the potential to make you lose the hand that you would have won if you jam turn are Q, J, and maybe T, and even those aren't that likely to change the winning hand, I'd lean towards checking some of your strongest hands. KK is an obvious check back candidate. I think AcKx is a better check back than AcAx, as you block more of villain's continue range. I think the best aces combo to check back is AcAs (blocking FD, but unblocking bdfd floats from flop which may be incentivised to bluff river).

Overall, I'd say you have quite a decent amount of strong hands that work better as check backs than this one. Not sure whether this one works better as a check back or not, but I think villain is more likely to make a mistake if you do check back, so it seems pretty reasonable.

Yes I think you asked what I would do with AQo & ATs. Preflop we are IP vs a SB 3 bet and I would call the 3 bet not 4 bet with these hands. IP we are incented to call and play a smaller pot IP with these hands IMHO. OOP (e.g. vs BN 3!) we are incented to 4 bet to get a fold or reduce the positional advantage by bloating the pot I think.

My comments about Kx and Jx calling was relative to the analysis of As Played do I bet here. I dont think better hands will fold to a bet here if you have AQo or ATs. I think Jx and Kx will call and they are better hands.

I cant find worse hands than AQo or ATs that will call here.

Hope that clarification helps.

some issue with checking or betting small turn is that i never check or bet small with axcc. as for pre i think it's nearly impossible villlain have better hand, jj is low freq call and kjs would be heroic oop, kk is impossible 100bb and irelevant is villain show it, even ak would be weird, so we have to think about villain range that is like ajs, kqs, aq, some underpairs and random suited broadways, and what is best line against those hands, i had too much action other tables and just shipped and villain fold

If you want to check somewhere, then do so on the flop because you block villains backdoor draws as you mentioned earlier.

As played, bet small ott. Just because we have 1 PSB left does not mean we have to shove or check.

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I came here to say “ship it” but, I don’t think that would be the most +Ev line anymore. I think, now, that we are so far ahead that a small bet is a great option. I think we want to get some money in the pot, but, as you found, shoving is going to lose your customer.


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