No real info on villain other than he did 3bet BBvUTG with 63s



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NL Holdem 0.50(BB)
HERO ($67.84)
SB ($50.14) [VPIP: 40% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 5]
BB ($15) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 25% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 4]
UTG ($10.25) [VPIP: 40% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 5]
HJ ($350.44) [VPIP: 60% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 5]
CO ($52.20) [VPIP: 80% | PFR: 40% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 5]

Dealt to Hero: A T

UTG Calls $0.50, HJ Calls $0.50, CO Calls $0.50, HERO Raises To $2.50, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Folds, HJ Calls $2, CO Calls $2

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.68 effective]
Flop ($8.75): 2 8 T
HJ Checks, CO Checks, HERO Bets $4.33 (Rem. Stack: $61.01), HJ Raises To $21.31 (Rem. Stack: $326.63), CO Folds, HERO

Just curious on site you are playing.... 2 guys overcalling sqeeze oop is something common for you? I give HJ very tighrt range here, like 88-jj, definitely not j9s, maybe qjs, cr sizing is weird, i think it's just JJ rather than 88, but it looks very fishy, need to know somethinfg more about villain what do OTF, AP I m just folding vs this size

I don't think I'd go for a cbet here I don't think. I agree with Ramius that HJ should have a very tight range (although I'd probably give him a few more suited hands like AQs, AJs, KQs, with maybe some slowplayed high pairs and possibly AKo), but for the CO, I think the range can actually be pretty wide, and include a lot of hands that do well on this flop. Seen as your range doesn't interact that well with the flop (you do have overpairs and TT, not sure how often you'd take this line with 88, and I don't think you have T8s or 22, and you don't have many obvious bluff candidates), that you are facing 2 callers who should probably have at least 2 sets possible each (and if CO is a bit loose, he can also have 22), and maybe even 2 pair for the CO, I'd go for a range check on this flop.

Once you get raised, I'd imagine this is actually pretty close to the bottom of your flop betting value range (don't know what proportion of JTs, QTs, and KTs you'd take this line with). Vs a random villain, if you take this line with all of those, all the time, then this has to be a call for me, if you never take this line with any of those, then it has to be a fold. However, vs this villain (the one who 3bets 63s BB vs UTG), I would be tempted to call and see how the turn plays out, as you do have 15 cards that considerably improve your hand.

Most likely value hands are 22 (3) and T8s (1). 88 is discounted because of the overlimp, but for the same reason it is possible he has T2s or T8o some % of the time as well.

I think between general spazz equity (e.g. 63s hand) and the particular board (contrast to Kxx or Axx) you can call down here.

Isn’t it too small pre? I’d make it 6,5bb ip

I don't get why some people are saying don't cbet. On Ignition, HJ and CO here can have a very large range. On less fishy sites, sure we can respect HJ and CO more.

For me, playing on Ignition 5nl Zone I'm c-betting here 100%. We squeeze and get a great flop, checking back multi-way seems absurd.

I could very well be wrong here, but I think checking back in a 3-way pot here is bad for the pool I'm playing against.

Actually, just gone over this again, and I assumed that HJ had min-raised to 0.50, assuming that you were playing 25nl, not 50nl. Most of what I said is rubbish then.

This guys a fish with 700bb’s, he 3bet 63s bb vs utg, clearly he’s an agro fish. I’m jamming here always and would expect him to have most Tx on his range

I really hate this pre flop raise. We have multiple limpers and we’re going to get action. If we were RFI and trying to take down the blinds, this is a fine hand. But we aren’t ever going to win this pot ore, and the range of hands that calls us is going to have us in bad shape. I don’t mind the Cbet , but when we get x/r I think it’s a fold.

even whale that 3bets 63s vs utg can be super tight postflop, same as a lot of shitty regs

Call call call don't fold

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call not close. cbet is good and pf is fine.

Will you explain why? (Genuinely curious, not arguing) everything I’ve studied says we should be tighter with our raising ranges when we have limpers in front. We’re almost certainly getting called pf in at least one place. Are we happy to hit an ace with med kicker? You seem to have a better handle on these things than I do. Am I misunderstanding something?

ATs is a very very clear raise. Do you expect one or more of the limpers to have AJ+, TT+? Those are the only hands to be concerned about and it's also worth noting you have position. Borderline hands here would be something like KTo, Q8s, 66.

The only problem is sizing - should be more like 3.50

6x is probably better but it's not like 5x is some awful sizing.

Preflop sizing isn't even solved. A real GTO player would use all different sizing's preflop at different frequencies.

End Bosses like Stefan sometimes use 5x opens OTB and sometimes use minraises.

No way we can fold this hand after the XR - our hand is better than AA here. If you fold this hand you are only calling sets.

Given preflop action - top pair T kicker = AK on an Ace high board

Agree with this.

vs HJ and CO, my chart shows ATs as 60% call, definitely not squeeze.

Squeeze size should be 12bb, around $6.

However, the range of hands villain SHOULD be calling a squeeze with: 0. he should be re raising all hands. Since most folks don't have this memorized, here is probably a sample of calls. JJ-99, AQs, ATs, A5s, AQo The rest he should be raising.

CO has to have a pretty tight range here to make a good call, so is definitely calling too wide due to fold on flop.

HJ is definitely a fish. So could call. But, an exploitative fold not out of the question. Looks like he is trying to bully you. Wonder if they would have called with a $6 squeeze size?

Preflop isn't a squeeze. It's an ISO and only a mistake if you think the only hands they are limp/calling with are AJ+ and decent pairs.

But you play on Ignition. You should know they are limp/calling much wider.

That's interesting. Maybe I'll mess around with this over the weekend and randomize on the button between either 2.5x or 5x Probably not something I could see myself doing full time at 25nl and 50nl, but it could be fun for a few hundred hands.



I didn't fold

7-8x pre
I'd prob jam flop
or call

Don't randomize that, bifurcate your range. If you're going to 5x open you better be polarized