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I should've just jammed? (leaving value on the table) I should've just jammed? (leaving value on the table)

03-22-2019 , 10:48 AM
No Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.05
888 Poker
4 players
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Stacks:
UTG - Hero ($6.30)
BTN - BTN ($5.71)
SB - SB ($8.16)
BB - BB ($3.04)

Preflop: ($0.07, 4 players) Hero is UTG with Qc Jd
Hero raises to $0.12, BTN calls $0.12, 1 fold, BB calls $0.07

Flop: Qs 4c Js ($0.38, 3 players - BB: $2.92, Hero: $6.18, BTN: $5.59)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.22, BTN calls $0.22, 1 fold

Turn: Qd ($0.82, 2 players - Hero: $5.96, BTN: $5.37)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.54, Hero calls $0.54

River: 2d ($1.90, 2 players - Hero: $5.42, BTN: $4.83)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.26, Hero raises to $3.00


Flop: I should've bet bigger OTF. Three ways with straight/flush draws possible I want to charge more than betting half... probably closer to 3/4 is better.

Turn: I think once I boat up the check/call is obvious. I don't want to scare away any draws that see my c-bet then check OTT as weak and bet the turn

River: Since the river is a complete brick I decide to check, my thinking is that if he was value betting the turn it's something like AQ/KQ/10Q, 44 is possible but may have raised my flop bet, JJ is possible as well but same sort of thinking. KK/AA might consider themselves ahead here but they would've likely 3-bet pre. Given this, I assume he's very likely to bet again OTR.

Once he bets I'm pondering between a pot-sized re-raise or just ripping it in. Looking back I put him on a single Q and figured that IF i ripped it, he's way more likely to fold that since it screams I HAVE A FULL HOUSE PLEASE PAY ME. Also I assume that worse boats like JJ/44 full are just going to reshove on me anyways. However, looking back I'm starting to think that for trip queens to call me here anyways, he has to imagine that I'm either doing this with a full house, or a busted spade/straight draw, and that evaluation doesn't really change if I bet the extra $1.83 he has behind does it?
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03-22-2019 , 10:51 AM
spoilers if you care:

Spoiler:
he called w/ AQ
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03-22-2019 , 10:52 AM
Fold pre.
Flop is fine. Turn is meh fine. x/jam as played.
I’d just bbj however
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03-22-2019 , 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unsporting
Fold pre.
Flop is fine. Turn is meh fine. x/jam as played.
I’d just bbj however
didn't mention in the original post but sb was a nit and BB is passive fish, I think opening QJo from cutoff is fine in this situation to hunt their blinds
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03-22-2019 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by superfishboy
didn't mention in the original post but sb was a nit and BB is passive fish, I think opening QJo from cutoff is fine in this situation to hunt their blinds
Says you’re UTG
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03-22-2019 , 11:03 AM
What Unsporting means is that it's a fine open.

As for the hand, it never hurts to jam with the nuts
I'd bet turn as he can call with draws he won't bet with. Without a read, I'm just going to assume people at this level are passive so betting's always > checking on this texture. Also Jx may call two streets but sometimes x's behind turn.
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03-22-2019 , 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unsporting
Says you’re UTG
UTG but only 4/6 at the table, so effective CO no?
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03-22-2019 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by superfishboy
UTG but only 4/6 at the table, so effective CO no?
That’s too complicated for a Friday afternoon in between doing work at the office
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03-22-2019 , 02:04 PM
Lol.

Bet flop, bet turn, shove river would be my plan.
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03-22-2019 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Flpmethntsdlr
Lol.

Bet flop, bet turn, shove river would be my plan.
x2

If villain is calling flop, he's calling the turn as people are going to give you credit for a Q
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03-22-2019 , 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flpmethntsdlr
Lol.

Bet flop, bet turn, shove river would be my plan.
What on earth are you hoping to get called by on the river? Other than smaller boats... I block him having a Q, what is calling a lead shove OTR? Am I just repping a busted draw the whole time and hoping he has a Q?
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03-22-2019 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by superfishboy
What on earth are you hoping to get called by on the river? Other than smaller boats... I block him having a Q, what is calling a lead shove OTR? Am I just repping a busted draw the whole time and hoping he has a Q?
River is a spot where if you’re gonna cooler him, you want his stack, and it’s terrible when he has Qx and we don’t extract that. You have the nuts, get the money in
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03-22-2019 , 04:21 PM
I'm not concerned too much about with what hands what V will or won't call. Put the money in and let him figure it out.
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03-22-2019 , 04:50 PM
If you're checking turn, it's probably an idea to check-jam it. Villain either has a queen (or better) that will stack off, or he has something that probably won't bet the river, which means you often miss value. (A lot of players will give up with T9ss, for example, when you check-call the turn, because they sense - correctly - that have showdown value and won't be folding to a river bet).
Obviously you have to check the blank river after check-calling the turn. Ripping it over his bet is the only logical play there.

An alternative (and more straightforward) line is bet-bet-check/jam.
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