I keep on leaking on AK played preflop where I, out of position, 4bet. Sometimes, I shove directly preflop but I don't think the times I get called make up for the folds (where I don't win so much and lose on the chance to play such a premium hand). And if I directly 4bet allin they seem to always know it's AK and call with their pairs. But it's also not good to just call OOP preflop. I seem to find myself at a dead end with AK, help me




PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - €0.05/€0.10 - 6 players


Psynstitut (UTG): €12.14 (121 bb)
Hero (MP): €10.25 (103 bb)
kaby974 (CO): €19.06 (191 bb)
nferreira16 (BU): €9.23 (92 bb)
HEAVEN KID (SB): €10.71 (107 bb)
avilesito (BB): €16.69 (167 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.15) Hero is MP with A K
1 fold, Hero (MP) raises to €0.30, kaby974 (CO) 3-bets to €0.90, 3 players fold, Hero(MP) 4-bets to €2.85, kaby974 (CO) calls €1.95

Flop: (€5.85) 7 T 8 (2 players)
Hero (MP) bets €2.50, kaby974 (CO) raises to €16.21 (all-in), Hero (MP) folds

4Bet size is too big for my taste (I go for arounf 2.5x or even smaller, that way I dont waste too much money if I get called and have to fold postflop).

I also Cbet 1/3 pot in 4Bet pots.

That way I waste about 30bb up to that point, you wasted 53,5bb.

On the flop, it depends if I think he is ever just calling a 4Bet with AK. If he is not, I don't really beat anything he called with so I don't think a Cbet is profitable.

Does that make any sense?

Do you have any reads on villain?

Readless...i don't think I would 4bet against villain.

This flop isn't going to connect with our oop 4bet hand. We have A and K blockers here, and villain didn't 5bet shove preflop. I would expect to see JJ and QQ fairly often here from villain. I don't think our cbet bluff is working very well for us here. It hits villain's calling range better than it hits our range.

The c-bet is suicidal, villain will never fold anything that beat us.

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appaling statement, 22-66 fold flop

If villain is any good, he should never have 22-66 here.

Since, hero didn't provide us with any reads though, who knows what villain's range is?!

CO is 3-betting and calling a 4-bet at 100BB effective with a small pair? Don't be daft.

Im sorry for using sarcasm, forgot I was on 2p2...

So you should be, this is serious business.

Indeed, it is 10nl afterall. Think about how many chicken nuggets you could buy with these bbs?!

To be honest if he plays a small pp that way pf, he might as well shove it on T87r.

4-bet seems fine. I'm not sure about the flop though. I wouldn't go that big with any hand, and without the BDFD, it might be better to check. As said earlier in the thread, villain has a lot of QQ/JJ. (He also might have some AK you can fold out).
I don't know what else you're 4-betting, but you might have some more obvious c-bet bluffs in this spot. Conversely, if your 4-bet range is very narrow (like QQ+/AK) you might go 25% of pot with 100% of your range.