Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 151.3 BB
SB: 120 BB
Hero (BB): 144.5 BB
UTG: 123.8 BB
MP: 119 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 K

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 8 BB, SB calls 7.5 BB, Hero calls 7 BB, fold

Flop: (26.5 BB, 3 players) K K J
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (26.5 BB, 3 players) 7
SB checks, Hero bets 13.2 BB, fold, SB calls 13.2 BB

River: (52.9 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 98.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 98.8 BB

SB shows J J (Full House, Jacks full of Kings)
(Pre 68%, Flop 77%, Turn 84%)
Hero shows 9 K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 32%, Flop 23%, Turn 16%)
SB wins 238 BB
Rake paid 10.1 BB


I just got tired folding all session so I just called pretty wide in the BB. I feel it wasn't such a bad play just given how people were playing, and the flushdraw gave me good enough implied odds just to not be losing much money. I was pretty confident I wouldn't be reraised, so I figured I'd have some fun.

After the flop checks round, and ott SB checks, I know (especially with 2 flushdraws) I need to bet. Half pot seems right, as I seem to **** these spots up when I bet too big. Half pot charges most hands enough, and I think allows for most Jx to call. I'm thinking at this moment that BTN and SB could definitely out kick me, but since there's only one king left, and at these stakes a 9 still beats quite a few hands apparently, I figure I can just go for it.

When the brick hits otr, I'm liking it, but then v donk jams for almost 2x pot. At this point I just know he's never bluffing, but he could be doing this with any flushdraw and maybe even a worse king. I would have thought a Jx would make a decent bluff candidate as well. The thing is I just don't know how wide I am meant to be bluff-catching here. Of course, playing preflop unorthodox leads me to these spots, but instinctively I just know that trip kings isn't good enough here. I feel like folding trips here is just too nitty though: he should have shown more aggression with his boats most of the time ott. At the same time, once SB cold-calls a 3-bet multiway, his range is capped to pocket pairs and few flush-draws, so maybe he is just rarely ever bluffing here? At the same time, I see people cold calling with all sorts of random suited hands they don't know what to do with in the SB looking to hit big, so idk.

I am also aware that K9 here is probably one of my weaker hands. I really shouldn't have many hands here. Maybe I have some random flushdraws, but of my value hands, I'm not sure how high up K9 is. I'd have thought KQ might even block some bluffs, so idk. I just recently had a hand where I had a set over set, but because of mubs I didn't get as much as I could have, so here I just decided to call. I can't tell if I'm just really unlucky because every time I have a decent hand and get jammed on they have it, or if I really am just being a calling station in these spots.

Sorry for the ramble of a post, I'm just steaming lol.

Not much to say. Terrible call pre. AP idk can't really fold trips imo but I'm not the kind of player that makes hero folds so I'm not the best to ask.

This is where the discussion needs to end TBH. A perfect example of where bUt I HaD Pot OdDS thinking Preflop proves catastrophic post flop

The pre-flop call is a major punt. K9s lacks both immediate equity and playability. 4way, drawing at a non-nut flushdraw isn't pretty. Our straight is dominate by AK. Etc. Given the 3bet of the UTG raiser, this is a spot where I am only playing AK and QQ+. And I am def 4betting.

I would laugh to myself as I snap fold the river. SB is probably a rec given his pre-flop cold-call, so the river isn't a total brick since T9s had a double gutter on the turn. But more than anything, I just don't think people bluff here much at all. Our hand obv beats zero value combos. The worst hand I would call would be AK if I somehow got here with it.

Fold. Probably x behind turn too if you bet that big, I'd want to go smaller with this hand

And it's worth saying again, preflop is bad (which is frankly an understatement). It's a very critical fundamental error

Yeah fair enough. I guess it's pretty hard to break anything down ap if you spazz on the first street.

i think hand is good enaugh to 4bet sometimes if villain is not nit, but call is disaster, postflop is whatever against some guys, but vs avg. nl10 villain fold, but have to appreciate villain play, quite tricky line, you run into his trap nicely.

Preflop, personally, I never cold-call a 3bet. Especially if someone has also cold-called the 3bet. So, preflop is a fold the vast majority of the time, and maybe an occasional 4bet, but I'd much rather have a stronger hand with better blockers, such as KJs. If a villain cold-calls a 3bet pre, my guesstimate is that the most likely hand they have is JJ. But the range is pretty narrow, something like 99-JJ (maybe the occasional 88 or QQ), and AJs-AQs, maybe AQo, maybe some KQs-KJs. Basically, this board is very good for a player having cold-called a preflop 3bet. Flop and turn are fine, but when you're facing a 2x overbet jam otr, I think you can get away from this. I'm going to go ahead and assume that you'd be calling pre with JJ, KJs (maybe KJo if you're coming along with K9s), KQ (maybe suited and offsuit), KTs, maybe T9s. Probably not K8s though. So, that is a lot of better combos, and facing a 2x pot jam, you don't have to call that much, and I think K9s is an easy fold here. Then, I feel like villain won't have anywhere near the correct amount of bluffs (which will be fairly close to 50%), so I think you could consider calling with an even tighter range. I think you could reasonably consider calling with JJ and KJ, and nothing more.

It's a bad call pre and this hand is a perfect example of why it's a bad call pre.

When you call with "implied odds" you have to take into account the hands where you get coolered on the wrong end. It's really easy to forget how often you'll check/fold away 7bb before you win 100bb and then when you take these spots into account it doesn't add up.

Yeah, SB flatted JJ because not in the 4bet range. I get QQ+, AKs, AKo raising to 20bb from SB. Possible flats include: JJ-TT, A5s, KTs (with A5s a strong 4bet).

For you I have a 4bet with QQ+, AQs+, AKo at 20bb. You are deeper, so you might want to target some of those as calls.

Possible flats include: JJ-99, AJs, A5s, KJs+, AQo, though I am not liking AQo so much anymore in raised pots (personal preference, though I will call it).

no point in analyzing this after pre flop