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07-22-2018 , 12:26 PM
Vil is 24/21 Reg, opens 50% of hands on BU

Should I have raised turn?



    WPN, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935140

    CO: $8.06 (161.2 bb)
    BTN: $4.98 (99.6 bb)
    SB: $5.23 (104.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
    UTG: $6.30 (126 bb)
    MP: $6.42 (128.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J 8
    3 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB folds, Hero calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.32) T T 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

    Turn: ($0.82) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65

    River: ($2.12) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $1, Hero calls $1




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    07-22-2018 , 12:37 PM
    Turn- no, but I would check raise that flop. He has so much Ax, Kx nonsense, any turn high card improves his equity.
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    07-22-2018 , 01:08 PM
    No hand is fine, fold river vs my pool but you can/should call as standard.
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    07-22-2018 , 03:29 PM
    Fold pre.
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    07-22-2018 , 05:35 PM
    WP hand, on turn this hand works better as a bluff catcher than raising and turning hand into bluff. On river vs bigger sizing, turning this hand into bluff would make more sense.
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    07-22-2018 , 07:19 PM
    WP. Never raise anywhere. Villain's not a reg.
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    07-23-2018 , 05:08 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WorldzMine
    WP. Never raise anywhere. Villain's not a reg.
    How do you know that Villain isn't a reg?
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    07-23-2018 , 08:16 AM
    Definitely don't fold pre.

    Not a fan of raising anywhere regardless of whether reg or not. Way too much SDV. I think river is a trivial fold, I might even fold turn :shrug:
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    07-23-2018 , 04:33 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RackTheStacks
    How do you know that Villain isn't a reg?
    Postflop sizings make him a regfish
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    07-23-2018 , 11:51 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WorldzMine
    Postflop sizings make him a regfish
    Only if we assume he doesn't have information on Hero that he's exploiting. If Hero thinks he's a reg - they've obviously played together a fair bit.
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    07-25-2018 , 05:25 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RackTheStacks
    Only if we assume he doesn't have information on Hero that he's exploiting. If Hero thinks he's a reg - they've obviously played together a fair bit.
    It's much much more likely that villain's standard postflop sizings are way too large in general especially on extremely dry boards like this than he is doing this as some sort of "exploit" specifically against hero. Not even sure what that would "exploit" when it comes to a reg.

    Hero probably thinks villain is a reg because of preflop stats and not noticing him do anything overly fishy. Just an example, if someone plays something like 24/22/11 preflop, which looks reggy, they can't be an actual reg if they are c-betting 85% postflop while constantly using a sizing of between 2/3-100% on even the dryest of boards. It doesn't have to follow that if someone is playing decent pre that they are also playing decent post. But to be considered a "reg" or a "good player" or whatever you want to call them they *must* do both.
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    07-25-2018 , 06:09 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WorldzMine
    But to be considered a "reg" or a "good player" or whatever you want to call them they *must* do both.
    According to whose definition?
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    07-25-2018 , 08:27 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WorldzMine
    It's much much more likely that villain's standard postflop sizings are way too large in general especially on extremely dry boards like this than he is doing this as some sort of "exploit" specifically against hero. Not even sure what that would "exploit" when it comes to a reg.

    Hero probably thinks villain is a reg because of preflop stats and not noticing him do anything overly fishy. Just an example, if someone plays something like 24/22/11 preflop, which looks reggy, they can't be an actual reg if they are c-betting 85% postflop while constantly using a sizing of between 2/3-100% on even the dryest of boards. It doesn't have to follow that if someone is playing decent pre that they are also playing decent post. But to be considered a "reg" or a "good player" or whatever you want to call them they *must* do both.
    I understand your point, but there have been winning "regs" that have played much higher limits over time that have played non-standard and won, purely because it makes other people spaz out
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