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How flop re raise should affect Opponents range? How flop re raise should affect Opponents range?

09-19-2018 , 10:46 AM
I just want to confirm I made a good decision here.

SB called an open bet, indicating he doesn't have many AA- JJ, AK, AQ, KQ

The Board comes K♠ 3♠ J♣, and he check raises.

What Cards would a rational player do this with?

Im thinking QJo, KJo?


Also did I play the hand well? With out the flush, how does my range match up to his range?

Appreciate the feedback!




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BU (Hero): $5.20 (260 bb)
SB: $2.07 (104 bb)
BB: $1.06 (53 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K♣ 7♣
Hero raises to $0.05, SB calls $0.04, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.12) K♠ 3♠ J♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.06, SB raises to $0.26, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.64) A♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.31, SB calls $0.31

River: ($1.26) Q♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB calls $0.80

Total pot: $2.86 (Rake: $0.10)

Showdown:
BU (Hero) shows K♣ 7♣ (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 6%, Turn: 24%, River: 100%)

SB mucks K♥ J♦ (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 94%, Turn: 76%, River: 0%)

BU (Hero) wins $2.76
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09-19-2018 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Poker_Cards
The Board comes K♠ 3♠ J♣, and he check raises.

What Cards would a rational player do this with?

Im thinking QJo, KJo?
Most rational players don't do much flatting in the SB vs a BTN open, but some will call pre with stuff like ATs, A9s, KJs, QJs, QTs (all of which could/should be 3-bet pre) and some mid/small pairs. KJo or QJo might flat if you minraised pre. QJo would be unlikely to check-raise the flop. I think you're more likely to get check-raised by JJ (some fish don't 3-bet jacks in that spot), 33, and KJ for value, and those hands will be balanced by combo draws like QTss, ATss. Since you've got the Kc in your own hand, villain can't have stuff like KTcc/K9cc, which might sometimes checkraise that flop.

Without clubs in your hand, K7s would be doing pretty badly on the runout you got. I don't think I'd be betting the turn even with the K7cc flush draw, since you'd fold out all the hands/bluffs that you beat, but always get called by the Ax hands that check-raise bluffed the flop and that now have showdown value. Just think about how you feel if villain check-jams the turn. You'd have 9 outs to the flush, but villain can have various sets, straights and two pairs. I think it's better to realize your equity by trying to suck out for free by checking back the turn.
Bombing the river with nuts when you get there is obviously fine. I'd probably just shove, as villain pays off with sets and straights, along with any worse flushes, and usually two pairs too.
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09-21-2018 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Most rational players don't do much flatting in the SB vs a BTN open, but some will call pre with stuff like ATs, A9s, KJs, QJs, QTs (all of which could/should be 3-bet pre) and some mid/small pairs. KJo or QJo might flat if you minraised pre. QJo would be unlikely to check-raise the flop. I think you're more likely to get check-raised by JJ (some fish don't 3-bet jacks in that spot), 33, and KJ for value, and those hands will be balanced by combo draws like QTss, ATss. Since you've got the Kc in your own hand, villain can't have stuff like KTcc/K9cc, which might sometimes checkraise that flop.

Without clubs in your hand, K7s would be doing pretty badly on the runout you got. I don't think I'd be betting the turn even with the K7cc flush draw, since you'd fold out all the hands/bluffs that you beat, but always get called by the Ax hands that check-raise bluffed the flop and that now have showdown value. Just think about how you feel if villain check-jams the turn. You'd have 9 outs to the flush, but villain can have various sets, straights and two pairs. I think it's better to realize your equity by trying to suck out for free by checking back the turn.
Bombing the river with nuts when you get there is obviously fine. I'd probably just shove, as villain pays off with sets and straights, along with any worse flushes, and usually two pairs too.

Thanks for the thorough analysis! That's awesome
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09-24-2018 , 10:51 PM
well played. As mentioned above I'd prefer a larger river sizing (all of it)
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09-24-2018 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Most rational players don't do much flatting in the SB vs a BTN open, but some will call pre with stuff like ATs, A9s, KJs, QJs, QTs (all of which could/should be 3-bet pre) and some mid/small pairs. KJo or QJo might flat if you minraised pre. QJo would be unlikely to check-raise the flop. I think you're more likely to get check-raised by JJ (some fish don't 3-bet jacks in that spot), 33, and KJ for value, and those hands will be balanced by combo draws like QTss, ATss. Since you've got the Kc in your own hand, villain can't have stuff like KTcc/K9cc, which might sometimes checkraise that flop.

Without clubs in your hand, K7s would be doing pretty badly on the runout you got. I don't think I'd be betting the turn even with the K7cc flush draw, since you'd fold out all the hands/bluffs that you beat, but always get called by the Ax hands that check-raise bluffed the flop and that now have showdown value. Just think about how you feel if villain check-jams the turn. You'd have 9 outs to the flush, but villain can have various sets, straights and two pairs. I think it's better to realize your equity by trying to suck out for free by checking back the turn.
Bombing the river with nuts when you get there is obviously fine. I'd probably just shove, as villain pays off with sets and straights, along with any worse flushes, and usually two pairs too.


I wouldn’t assume it’s a rational player who would have a balanced c/r range here with bluffs AND assume they’re not rational because they have a SB limp range. To me that’s an or statement. Might be different here because it’s only 3 people and maybe there’s history that says the BB overfolds

All that aside, B/C flop seems standard, but agree that the turn is a check and evaluate on the river once vil gives us more information.

Likely peeling one and then folding turn to a 3/4 cbet.

As played, bomb river




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