Hey guys, I've been analyzing aggregate reports from GTO Wizard's "complex" sims. These have a ton of sizes at each node, and it's solved on a full 1755 flop subset. I thought it would be interesting to analyze and graph the results.

I know a lot of the players here are interested in bet sizing theory. I invite you guys to check out this thread in the poker theory forum and lend me your ideas!

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...lysis-1792863/

To pique your interest, I found it particularly interesting that the IP vs BB cbet on the flop tends to be very "bimodal", seemingly preferring a large geometric size or a smaller more linear size:

do you think the open raise size should be a variable here?

Cool thread(s).

tombos21 what do you mean exactly when you say 'geometric'?

it means to bet the same amount on eacht street choose a size that puts you all in by the river. tombos refers to the 100%-200% pot size bet range that is used more ofthen than the 60%-80% psb.

Well now I've learnt two words ITT

I wonder if SB v BB srp would follow a bimodal meta pattern then? Or would we see more of a mix with a wider uniform spread given it's a cross between high SPR and positional disadvantage against a capped range (i.e. BU v BB in reverse, with wider ranges and a greater demand for geometric sizings than SB 3! BU).

This same logic would play out in oop srp cold-call scenarios too. Although of course it must be very situation dependent. You'd also have to pin IP to a range which for any practical purposes is annoying. Does GTO-Wiz attempt this?

Would be interesting to compare UTG v BB with BU v BB too. We would check more as UTG because BB can hit better boards, but how would this effect our (presumably) bimodal pattern? Would we steal from the top or bottom to balance?

This is why GTO Wizard is the nuts. I am so pumped for turn aggregation reports.

they dont have turn agg reports?

I suppose it would be, but at the moment it's restricted to a single 2.5bb open.

The UTG vs BB charts are in that other thread at the top; same bimodal trend but less pronounced. I'm assuming it has to do with the tighter calling range reducing the asymmetry.

SB vs BB srp would be really interesting to graph! I wonder if the effect would be more or less pronounced, or a different shape completely? Need the premium membership to access that report though.

Right!? Imagine being able to graph the the entire tree, or even the most common lines filtered for different positions? We might discover new heuristics or gain a deeper understanding of bet sizing theory in general.

Great work Tombos!

Why would you pay for content to get an edge and then plaster said edge all over the forums?

Most people seek to optimize their study time to gain the biggest edge with the least amount of effort. My goals are different. I like to study the stuff no one else bothers to look at. The weird unexplored effects of theory are what interest me. It's pure scientific curiousity, and there's no point doing research if I keep it all to myself.

So to answer your question - I did it for the LULZ

ha! That's alright. Just wanted to know if these were gonna keep coming! there's a few more like-minded knowledge-sharing individuals on the forums so I think at this rate I'll cancel my sub