Strategy question: I have some charts to 3b/4b. What I don't know is if I must 3b the hands on it EVERYTIME. I tend to wait some hands to 3b again

Adapt the chart to every situation.

But I need to understand it deeper. For example: I am at BB with AJo, CO raises x3. Then.. I should 3b him because his opening range is has lots of worst hands than AJo? so, the objetive is to play postflop (or not) with a raised pot with a better hand + info about his hand?

Poker is more nuanced than that. There are several reasons why 3-betting a particular hand might be slightly more profitable than flatting it.
Reasons for 3-betting include:
* You can get called by hands you dominate (i.e. you're value-raising).
* You can fold out hands that have significant equity (i.e. you're denying equity).
* You can get called by a hand that is currently winning (e.g. a pocket pair), but you make the best hand post-flop and get some value.
* By having some weaker hands in your 3-bet range, you "balance" your strategy, which increases the EV of your premium hands. (i.e. Villain has to call your breakeven-ish pre-flop "bluffs" at some frequency, and this makes QQ+/AK more profitable for you).

AJo in BB v CO is one of those hands that probably uses a mixed strat at equilibrium. It gets its EV in various ways. It's a profitable call AND (vs most players) it's a profitable 3-bet. I'd recommend 3-betting it vs LAGs w/ high fold to 3-bet numbers, but flatting vs nits and fish that have low PFR numbers. You don't want to bloat the pot OOP with "offsuit trouble hands" if villain doesn't fold to 3-bets, because it sucks to play hands like AJo OOP with low SPRs.
To be clear, if/when you 3-bet AJo 100bb deep in BBvCO, you'd much prefer it if villain folds pre. It's not the end of the world if you get called, but you'd rather pick up the dead money uncontested.

Thanks Arty, great explanation! Can I ask one more about this? Let's imagine we are at SB with AKo and BTN raises x3, We 3b him for x11/12. BTN is one of those station/maniacs from NL5, we only have 150 hands on HUD for him. Flop comes 28Q rainbow.

Then, it's ok to just check fold here? Being OPP against this kind of guys without the tourney backgroud is a big problem I am having.

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Well guys I am having trouble. Can some one give me any tip? I will post my stats from my first 57k hands.

bb/100: -3.49
VPIP: 18.6
PFR: 14.5
3BET: 5.64
Vs 3b call: 36.6
4b range: 3.22
WTSD%: 28.7
W$SD%: 25.6
W$WSF: 42.2
Agg: 2.35
Agg%: 31.8
Flop cbet: 69.9
Turn cb: 47.6
Steal ptc: 30

I don't know if you need any other stat, just tell me.

From my point of view:

1- It seems I am having trouble leting hands go. Especially BvB. I can't manage stations and fish. What ever I call them with or bet them with they have something crazy and better lol. Against regs I am doing fine.

What I need to know here is some kind of "micro's strategy". It is ok if I stop fighting hands for thin value and pots BvB or BvBTN, just let go those little pots and get the profit from my real value ones?

What happens is: when I take this idea on mind, I tend to lose money little by little, then a good hand comes and I recover and get profit too.

Is this mindset ok to be used all the time on micros? or I need to learn more post flop theory? (I obviously need lol, but I mean: it's a problem I have right now and need to fix to win here in NL5?)

2- My charts says AKs, AKo and KK are 5bets/push agains EP's 4bets. QQ is a 4b call and JJ is a 4bcall depeding on V.

Experience on this almost 60k hands says that's is wrong on NL5. I will never again 5b AK's against EP's range and probably I will stop calling 4bets with QQ too. From CO+ 5b all day long.

Am I right? or just bad experiences for me? Would you 5b push AKo to an unknown random in UTG?

Yes, if you have better candidates for bluffing, then AK works fine as a check(-fold). The optimal strat might be to pot it with 50% of your range on Q82r, and hands like AK (and JJ-99) don't belong in a polarized range for that sizing, as they are too strong to be used as bluffs, but not strong enough to count as value-bets for a large size (nothing they dominate calls). If you chose to go much smaller with the c-bet, betting AK (and almost everything else) should be fine.
I'll look at the other stuff you wrote tomorrow, but hopefully someone else jumps in.

Thanks a lot! I do the 1/3 cbet with the regs but I fell against randoms is useless, the call means nothing, the raise is a cry fold because you never know. It's a good idea because of FE or because of hand equity on the future streets?

Some of them sometimes fold but probably not enough. 1 in 4 is the number? probably that + 2 overs makes it a good deal but I don't know how to test it lol

If you bet 1/3 pot with AK, villain's might not fold immediately all that often, but bear in mind you also have 2 overs, which is worth about 12% equity just for the turn. Sometimes you can check the turn and villain checks back, so you actually realize 100% of your equity (2 chances to improve to top pair) for a very cheap price. It's not as cheap as checking, though.

Regarding the other post #31, your overall stats look fine, albeit a little nitty pre-flop. I'd prefer you to post all the standard stats with a screengrab from PT or HEM in the special Stats thread at the top of this forum, if you want a deeper database analysis.

This is completely normal/standard for ABC nitregs. You lose the majority of hands by folding somewhere (usually pre-flop), but then you make a big hand (or get in stack off pre) and that puts you in profit. It's not uncommon to play a stretch of 250 hands and never get all in, or make a triple barrel. I've had sessions of 400 hands where my biggest pot was 40bb (for a 20bb profit lol). I've also had sessions where I've won or lost 3 stacks in 40 hands. #Variance. Unlike in tournaments where you're "forced" to go all in quite often, due to being 20bb deep or less, cashgame require patience. You only want to play for stacks with very strong hands. Apart from the big coolers that play themselves, you're mostly just trying to pick up a few big blinds here and there.

I usually stack off AK (unless I'm flatting vs a 3-bet by the blinds), but mostly you need QQ+ if you get all in pre, and sometimes you need KK+ (vs UTG, or in a pot where there was a cold 4-bet). JJ, TT and AQ fare quite badly if you get all in pre at 100bb effective in the micros.

Thanks Arty, you are helping me a lot from long ago in the begginers forum. I will post stats there when I get to 100k hands, like in 2 days

To all: What about this BB stats? should I call less, 3b more. Just play less hands? what is a standard number for losing there? I guess you can't be on green

https://imgur.com/a/eCjviE6

Today was a good day, up 11.5 BI. I just started to check more and let them bluff. It works

Things are going bad. -2.45 BB/100 in 95K hands. I will post in the stats trhead. Also will go down to 6 tables. From next monday 2 hours of study at least per day. 8K hands/day. Sleep earlier and eat healthly (sorry about my english). Exercise in the future :P, I spend at least 12/13 hs in poker and I will until I get this thing done.

Today I had a really bad session. I think my bigger problems are as I said before calling too much on rivers with showdown value, not value betting lots of rivers because of that, and fighting maniacs.

From monday I will change my way of playing to 6 tables, 1 hour study + 4 hours play + 1 hour study + 4/5 hours play.

I will write down these leaks and will read them (and strategy points) before playing. I find myself on big hours of focus and being up or breakeven, then one of these things happen and it always rise for wrong. Tilt I guess. It wasn't a problem at tourneys. That is why I moved there. I feel now cash is a bigger challenge on this. I don't have full sessions or days of this tilt, it just appears in any moment and ruin me down to 4 or 5 BI, then I hate the world and myself (I can note myself doing something I shouldn't but I do it anyway). Then I back to "normal" and continue from there.

I think I could be winning short if I could manage just this, then I can learn a lot too, but I feel this thing itself is bringing me down.

By the other way I need to get it to 1-2BB/100 at least soon because last month I was on a downsing in tourneys, and this month I am -3bb/100 in 100k hands and BR is not infinite.

I think I can manage this, I did it before in tourneys. I will take this last 15 days like an introduction and start from there. Now I have experimented it, had your guide, and learn the charts and basic lines. So I will focus in what you are telling me, play only for value and study. That might be enough to step 1: Go green :P

Well. First 4hs session was good. I add 1 more table because I felt I was able to play 7 and pay all the needed atention. 12.27 BB/100. Now study time. This week will be all about cbeting.

I focused a lot in not making calling or missing value mistake and it went fine. I pay 2 streets OPP in a 3b pot with underpairs and it went wrong, taking that in mind. I also started to raise cbets both bluff and value and both worked great against barrelers in flop/turn

you might want to start a PGC thread
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...mp-challenges/
gl to you

haha I will, this is the only not-hands trhead. Last post here: second part of session was good too. All the poker day will take me 13hs, today I couln't finish de 8k hands because I started late.

Happy in general, all time under control.