I've only played 15,000 hands on PPPoker, but I've noticed several instances where the RNG seems to be in place specifically to induce action. While I am a primarily live player, I have seen ~30,000 hands on ignition and have not seen the frequency of nut hands being pitted against second nut hands.

Examples: I've flopped quads 8 times on the app (this alone is too frequent), and in 6 of those instances we were all in by the river, with 2 instances being flopped boat vs quads.

I see flopped two pair over flopped two pair minimally once every 100 hands, along with set over set.

Yesterday on the app in a multi-way limped pot where I was BB with K6o there was a KQ6 flop...two other villains had 66 and KQ. <---- This obviously does happen from time to time, but I see very similar situations occur on a way too regular basis.



Is this all in my head or have you guys with experience with PPPoker seen similar things?

but how much did you lose?

30k hands lol.

Any reputable poker site has all of this checked by people out of house so if you google you can probably find out who does it and look at the data.

Live player logic. Yeah online poker is rigged and you’ve just uncovered it today on PPPoker. 15 and 30k hands is definitely a reliable sample to draw any sort of conclusion from too. Nice one OP

I remember looking into joining one of those leagues on pokerrr2 and the guy running it was like "oh full disclosure it's set on action mode or something", i.e. Straights, flushes etc are more common

Other people in here acting like ppppoker is a reputable site clearly don't have a clue what it is

Mods move to BBV please

^ this pls

I know this is super speculative and such but I can agree with you on this. I used to play decent volume on PPP and I would flop quads and straight flushes very frequently. It was great and all because of the high hand bonus but was absolutely out of the norm.

the meddlesome RNG fixing gnomes are at it again

TBH I agree with those dudes.

When I play live I always want a new deck and order the dealer to shuffle the cards more.
If I get coolered I ask for a new dealer, cause honestly live is more rigged than online.

Once I flatted AA on UTG+1 and the guy who opened UTG won with 67hh, which is totally ridiculous and rigged. Dumb part is that he's a reg so casino 100% rigs it for him, cause he tips £1 per session.

FWIW, there have been loads of claims of rigging and collusion on PPPoker. It sounds pretty dodgy to me, but I have no idea if the complaints are just from rigtards or not.
See the discussion thread: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...56/index9.html

Complaints about rng on pppoker/pokerrr2 are not the same as the ****reg complaints about rng on pokerstars/ignition

There's no "action mode" in pokerrr2 club options haha. The club admin was probably just trying to sound as if there was more action to entice fish.

Also 30k hands online is a lot imagine how long it would take to see that many hands live? If you did you'd see some crazy instances of quads vs boats at least a couple times.

Play one table online for two hours and that is the equivalent of like a six hour session live so your seeing 6x more action per session, 6x more big hands dealt, etc so easy for your mind play tricks on you.

A pokersite could deal someone five-of-a-kind & 2plus2 multitabling nitregs would put it down to variance.

Pseudo intellectuals enjoying being condescending pricks is making collusion easy again

Online AVG hands per hour - 100
Live AVG hands per hour - 20

JUST SAYIN

If poker sites use different methods to RNG, it stands to reason that some sites will RNG better than others.

Don't know about the site in question but 888 for example do something other than have the most fantastic RNG in the industry, imo. Its a stretch of the imagination that a website can have software so basic you cannot even customise a bet slider but we're supposed to accept the RNG is godly.

Just press random buttons so the RNG can't exploit you. I've broken even for 3 years by doing this.

I'm dying

I still can't believe how can someone pour so much money into marketing & still have the ****tiest platform/software that has ever existed.

It's like they're stuck on a beta release and fired their developers ages ago.

I just came across this thread and I have also been having my fair share of unfavourable runouts. I can expect that but they always seem to favour the high vpip players and recreational guys. The one thing that really got me thinking was that I saw a flop 4 times in 3 days that was JJJ and I only play about 2500 hands max per week on the site. That cant be random as far as I am concerned. Seems to have gotten worse since the union has got rid of the Jackpot bonus if that has anything to do with it. It could also be me not handling variance very well lol. probably more the latter.

I don't play NL there but yes, it's rigged. Don't play there. Problem solved.

It's on purpose, just a strategy

{Insert David Duchovny "The Truth is out There" meme here.}

Keep looking.

Wait.

Are you saying that rec fish with high vpips suck out more often than people with low vpips?

wow, ive put in over 200k hands here and my friend is a HU player there with probably even a larger sample size and like 10mil hands between us lifetime..
we go back and forth about THIS ap a lot. it seems there are a *FUKTON* of setups, and the amount of ridiculous suckouts really do blow my mind.
the problem is that its so hard to verify, mathematically a lot of things are possible.

SPeaking as someone who has put in more volume than almost anyone in my PPP clubs, i can tell you im pretty suspicious. The only thing that keeps me unsure is that im actually winning.. if it was THAT rigged id be losing.. right?

another thing i noticed, and other people have noticed too, is that new accounts seem to sunrun. Like to the point where if im in a hand with a new ACC, i actually change my game based upon that, ridiculous, i know.
I have seen new accs crash and burn, tho.