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04-25-2021 , 04:52 PM
Thoughts?

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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
SB ($15.16)
BB ($4.93)
HJ ($5.89)
CO ($2.01)
HERO ($5.34)

Dealt to Hero: Q K

HJ Raises To $0.15, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.45, SB Folds, BB Folds, HJ Calls $0.30

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.04 effective]
Flop ($0.97): 4 9 T
HJ Checks, HERO Bets $0.47 (Rem. Stack: $4.42), HJ Calls $0.47 (Rem. Stack: $4.97)

Turn ($1.91): 4 9 T 2
HJ Checks, HERO Bets $1.37 (Rem. Stack: $3.05), HJ Calls $1.37 (Rem. Stack: $3.60)

River ($4.65): 4 9 T 2 3
HJ Checks, HERO Bets $3.05 (allin)
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04-25-2021 , 05:50 PM
3bet KQo good.

5nl on Ignition, if they have something, they will call. What are you trying to rep here?
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04-25-2021 , 06:09 PM
I fold pre but 3-bet is just as good imo. Unfortunately I think your average ignition 5nl drooler calls with A9/A10, and PPs. You would think something like J10,J9 would fold but there's some omega Calling stations in this pool
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04-25-2021 , 06:52 PM
5nl villians probably don't fold many made hands OTR after calling 2nd barrel and most draws brick.

you could just bet river small to target Ax spades no pair

don't think many/any 5nl players have balls to turn hands like QJ no spade into a bluff over river block so you don't really need balance
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04-25-2021 , 07:27 PM
3betting all combos of KQ here is too loose in theory but vs the fish go ahead bro

Arent we supposed to go 1/3 with our entire range on every flop?

Not a fan of postflop because we block QJ which folds at some point as well as two sets of backdoor flushdraws which fold when we can block one with the diamond combos.

Would prefer to 3barrel AK and if you want to Ad4d and As4s since we block some sets that way

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04-25-2021 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FutureInsights
3bet KQo good.

5nl on Ignition, if they have something, they will call. What are you trying to rep here?
ATs/A5s/sets/any over pair
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04-25-2021 , 08:33 PM
folding pre at all, let alone as standard, is super nitty. my gto charts are 3betting >75% with the rest call.
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04-25-2021 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
ATs/A5s/sets/any over pair
Makes sense. That's 37 combos of value to the 12 combos of KQo, so it's good from a balance perspective.

The only downside to bluffing is you do beat all of his draws except for AJss
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04-25-2021 , 08:58 PM
is 49t rainbow really good for a preflop 3betting range. Doesnt look like it would be . The turn 2 isnt the worst card because all of villains draws are still drawing. atleast it wasn't an 8 Even if DDPs play were solver approved not sure im doing it versus the average 5nl guy.

Last edited by dude45; 04-25-2021 at 09:03 PM. Reason: typo
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04-26-2021 , 07:41 AM
I think this is a good spot to overbluff, especially if you have no history with villain. Even with AT, he can't feel too comfortable. Dunno how the pool is on your site, but my recollection of 5nl on stars was pretty nitty. My only slight issue is with you choosing this particular hand. The Qs is probably the card you most want villain to have as AQss, KQss, and QJss could all take this line and fold (and even QTss if villain is a little nitty). The K does block one combo of KTs, so it's not all bad.

Overall, I'd say you definitely have a fair amount of better third barrel candidates (and probably also better candidates on earlier streets), but sometimes you just have to go for it if villain or pop is too nitty with the calls. I'd still much rather see this with a hand with no spade, and preferably no club (to block Txs).
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04-26-2021 , 09:43 AM
Folding KQ here pre makes zero sense unless you have substantial read Villain is super nit who only opens nuts.

KQ is a good triple here at some frequency. I would go 33% flop, 67% turn, 100% river. If we're tripling all of our viable bluff candidates, we're almost definitely over-bluffing so generally want to mix it up, but over-bluffing might not be a problem honestly. While micro population seems littered with stations, my experience, and what others have told me they've seen data to support, is that v lines like 3-bet/bet/bet/shove, XR/Bet/shove, XR/shove, they do not call down as light as we often assume
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04-26-2021 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise804
Arent we supposed to go 1/3 with our entire range on every flop?
What? Why?
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04-26-2021 , 12:18 PM
nh
if you don't think he folds Tx, don't bluff at all
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04-26-2021 , 03:01 PM
Nice hand
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04-27-2021 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by alpha2112
folding pre at all, let alone as standard, is super nitty. my gto charts are 3betting >75% with the rest call.
is your chart vs 3x with micro rake?
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04-27-2021 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IIlllIlIllIIlIlllI
What? Why?
Because most villains are over folding and not check raising enough.

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