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TPTK facing a 3rd barrel on river. TPTK facing a 3rd barrel on river.

09-13-2018 , 08:14 PM
UTG: 98.2 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 6)
UTG+1: 269.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 124.12 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
CO: 108.52 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (BTN): 95.6 BB
SB: 186.88 BB (VPIP: 53.33, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 15)
BB: 55.28 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J A

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 5 4 J
SB checks, MP bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB raises to 13 BB, fold, Hero calls 9 BB

Turn: (40 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 21 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

River: (82 BB, 2 players) 5
SB bets 149.88 BB <---I have ~60BBs left.


V is a LAG. Seen him bluff earlier. Feel way to high in my range to fold to flop raise.

Turn call is iffy, what do you think? I thought the half pot bet was odd for 55/44 type hands given wetness of turn card. Still has 67/A2/A3 for bluffs and given what seems to be a fish some weak J's.

River is interesting. Blocks 55. So only 4 combos of flopped sets. 66 would be weird for V to have. 78 suited would make sense. Call/fold?
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09-13-2018 , 08:19 PM
fold

you have a bluffcatcher at best, fishy villain MAY do this with a hand like JK and JQ but i doubt it

we don't yet know if villain is running large multistreet bluffs and vs a guy playing 50/5 he could also have j5, 54 78 23 etc
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09-13-2018 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Saysonz1
fold

you have a bluffcatcher at best, fishy villain MAY do this with a hand like JK and JQ but i doubt it

we don't yet know if villain is running large multistreet bluffs and vs a guy playing 50/5 he could also have j5, 54 78 23 etc
J5 and 23 from SB seem like a stretch even for a fish.
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09-14-2018 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 23LBJ23
J5 and 23 from SB seem like a stretch even for a fish.
this guy is playing 60% of hands with 2 callers behind him his call range will be extremely wide

i would call 23 in his spot so i am sure he would also
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09-14-2018 , 12:41 AM
I can't fold this for 95 bb's against this guy. But I'm a station
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09-14-2018 , 02:46 AM
The most obvious draw comes in on the turn so this is where the fold needs to happen. Vil has J5 and J4 in range as well. I fold on the flop sometimes too being that it's multiway and don't feel bad about it
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09-14-2018 , 03:13 AM
don't fold flop or turn
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09-14-2018 , 04:06 AM
Calling flop and turn is fine.

We should prob fold river.
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09-14-2018 , 06:17 AM
I think turn is closer than it seems and river very likely a fold
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09-14-2018 , 08:09 AM
Without looking at the stats, I want to fold the flop. Villain is check-raising vs a c-bet and a call. People at low stakes just don't raise with draws in that spot. I'm definitely folding the turn when I don't pick up a BDFD. River looks like a trivial fold.
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09-14-2018 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pokrr
The most obvious draw comes in on the turn so this is where the fold needs to happen.
Don't agree. Most obvious would be 8 or 3 ball on turn. Way more 67 combos than 78.
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09-14-2018 , 11:22 AM
To those that say fold the flop. I get you trying to make an expolotive fold, but were high in our range and have back door nut flush draw. Just don't see how we fold this flop.

Those that say fold river. What type of value hands are you giving V here on river? Vs. what bluffs? Tx

Arty: Your statement is def generally true at low stakes, but the pool I play in is full of V's who do super weird ****. Like showing up with 88 here or JT. Lots of "I don't know what to do with this middling type hand so I will just bet bet bet"
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09-14-2018 , 03:25 PM
If they actually have 88 and JT in range then snap call. I don’t really see that being part of range but your the one who plays in the games.

I know what u mean by people taking a weird bet bet bet line with 88 for example,
But check raise bet bet is a lot stronger than just betting 3 streets.
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09-14-2018 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Without looking at the stats, I want to fold the flop. Villain is check-raising vs a c-bet and a call. People at low stakes just don't raise with draws in that spot. I'm definitely folding the turn when I don't pick up a BDFD. River looks like a trivial fold.
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09-14-2018 , 07:04 PM
this thread shows why you should be raising flops very liberally with a lot of hands in micros

the average reg will fold a LOT
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