How badly did I mess this up?

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 168.8 BB
SB: 150.2 BB
BB: 227.3 BB
UTG: 193.6 BB
MP: 314.5 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 3

UTG raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.2 BB, fold, BB calls 1.2 BB

Flop: (7.1 BB, 3 players) 5 3 A
BB checks, UTG bets 2.3 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, UTG raises to 25.2 BB, Hero calls 14.2 BB

Turn: (57.5 BB, 2 players) K
UTG bets 43.1 BB, Hero calls 43.1 BB

River: (143.7 BB, 2 players) J
UTG bets 123.1 BB and is all-in, Hero ???

I fold this pre. UTG open 33 otb is at the top of my folding range. As played, looks pretty standard to me. The spot on the river is pretty gross, how often is the pool doing this with 2P?

I think calling pre is fine. The book would say it is a mix between 3betting a tiny bit, and then calling and folding roughly in equal measure. However, given that the raise is small and you are deep I think this is completely fine in the absence of reliable and high 3betting stats in the blinds.

All fine other than that, as long as you called.

In theory youre close to bottom of range here
I feel like fold river is slightly better but it's gross

Being almost 170bb effective I think this is call to set mine.

Good point, didn't see the effective stacks. Yeah call is totally fine, assuming blinds aren't squeezing often.

Well yeah, its set mine, and 33 is perfect call from button to any open srp.

The question is, if you hit set, what do you do by river? As played, I would have jammed flop. If he 3bet, I say you better have straight, AA or 55, otherwise you toast, and jam.

He actually 4 bet flop.

I agree with everything but he didn't 4bet. I get it why you are confused. Preflop the blinds are considered to be the 1st bet, hence when you open that is the 2nd bet and when you get raised thats a 3b. But on the flop there is no "mandatory bet" hence when he bet, I raised and when he re-rasises it is the 3rd bet and hence 3bet.

It seems like I have a lot to learn from you. Everytime your intuition(?)/knowledge is better in theory than in mine.

I find it very difficult to fold big hands.

Can't work out if this is a troll or not. Either way, I'm behind it.

Not a troll.

True, just not used to all the ins of post flop play translation. Sorry, but I do have solid foundation for game. Play 25nl/50nl (sometimes 200nl) on Ignition.

I didn't go for solvers when I first started, and noticed that I over played when on downswings. Been playing since June 2019 (first time since Black Friday, boy was I the fish).

End of last year, beginning of this year, spent some money for deep study. Saw where exploits and gto merged. Saw where to deviate based on pool and other tells when playing population in a vacuum.

I do much better now, and have only spewed 3 stacks over the month (I am proud, lol).

Good for you man. I am just getting serious about poker. I wish i only spewed 3 stacks in a month. I spew more than that in a week, sometimes even a session.

What would you say are the best ways to study?

Hmmm

I think our range consists of:

Better:
3 combos of 55
Ac3c
2 combos of 33 with a club

Worse:
A5s
A3s
A5h

So more like 2/3rds down. And, when we beat potential value this is a clear call. I think if we had As5s or Ah5h then it would be a far more interesting decision.

Why don't we have 6 combos of 55 here?

Edit : Oops I am dumb.

I have some coaching videos I watch. There are some study and other interesting videos on Run It Once for $25 a month.

I have CREV and GTO+. I purchased solved pre flop ranges, including multi way pots, squeezes, etc. I plugged those into solver software.

On ignition, we get everyone's hole cards for every hand, including ones we folded, and the one's they folded during play. Just as good as watching real live play video. i mark hands for review, even opponent hands, and run them through solver.

I have simple gto trainer, and purchased the core pack. One thing you can do here is run a hand through the solver prior to playing the hand. this gives you even more exposure to different techniques. Then run play for about an hour. GTO+ also has a play against the solution, but I don't keep my laptop on long enough for the solves needed to play.

I also replay hands in the trainer, after getting the delta 0 ev for the solve, to match the population tendencies that I see with other players in pool. I notice by losing a little ev in solver, I get more calls, and make more money.

This is after a 3 week intensive study using the solvers with input of hands.

Its a bit much, I know, but I am playing much better.

Fold pre, unless blinds or UTG are bad recs. Ripping the turn as played, expecting to see AK a lot.

Here is the complete hand history if anyone is interested.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 168.8 BB
SB: 150.2 BB
BB: 227.3 BB
UTG: 193.6 BB
MP: 314.5 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 3

UTG raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.2 BB, fold, BB calls 1.2 BB

Flop: (7.1 BB, 3 players) 5 3 A
BB checks, UTG bets 2.3 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, UTG raises to 25.2 BB, Hero calls 14.2 BB

Turn: (57.5 BB, 2 players) K
UTG bets 43.1 BB, Hero calls 43.1 BB

River: (143.7 BB, 2 players) J
UTG bets 123.1 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 98.3 BB and is all-in

Just a word on the PF call and set mining.

Might not be the popular opinion but I think being deep is reason not to set mine here. At 100BB deep most players are going to stack off with TPGK+ on a dry board. This is the range we are targeting with our call with 33.

For 170BB I'm not sure we get stacks in against top pair. On wet boards, we might not even get action from 2 pair. With 33 we are nearly always hitting bottom set and when deep the reverse implied odds harm us. At 100BB we can write it off as a cooler, the deeper we get, the more marginal (and the higher the rake) it gets.

Actually, where I play the rake is capped. So, the rake is same at two stacks going in 100bb deep vs 2 stacks going in at 200bb deep each.

At 50nl, rake is capped $4. Two 50 or slightly less stacks get it all in, $4. Two $100+ stacks get it all in, $4. Same for $2 at 25nl.

My point about the rake was just a side point really and not related to stack size. I could have made that clearer. It’s just at the really micro stakes, the portion of rake we pay to the pot size is larger.

That’s why marginal profitable calls at NL500 can become 3bet or fold at say NL5. My main point is calling these hands at deeper stacks can be dicey with reverse implied odds

Was thinking exactly this. Deeper we get the less good set mining low pp's gets.

we don't pure flat A5 or A3, we mostly 3bet them pre if not pure

Rake paid 14.6BB? Wtf???? Where was this played? Am I crazy or is that even higher than like 2NL on stars?

Edit: Ok it says the site in the HH, but still, that's crazy high rake right?

Its about 4+%, standard for US facing sites.