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11-13-2018 , 01:33 PM
Info about the villain: He's a passive player who is always afraid to raise flop and turn because he "doesn't want to scare people out of the pot". He will 90% of the time raise rivers with perceived strong hands because that's the last opportunity to get money in the pot with your nut hands. Has no concept of betting in relation to pot size, i.e. pot is 3000 on river, hero bets 500, he raises to 1000. He recently read a Jonathan Little book about low stakes cash games and has been discussing concepts like pot odds with me for the past week. He's TRYING to be better at poker, but still opens all kinds of garbage hands for min raises preflop, but also opens aces and kings for min raises preflop. He does bluff with some frequency, but has no rhyme or reason for his bluffs. OTTH

4 handed home game $10 SnG
First level, blinds 25/50, 5000 effective stacks

BTN (V) raise to 100, I call in SB with 22, BB call

Flop (300): 244
x / x / BTN ^ 150 / Hero ^ 600 / BTN call

Turn (1500) 244 A
Hero ^ 600 / BTN ^ 2000 / Hero ^ AI 4300 / BTN call

Results: BTN had AA

I know you're immediately thinking "this is just a cooler, get over it, move on with your life"... BUT! I know this guy is passive AF and he super rarely raises before the river. I know this is the top of my range and GTO shouldn't ever be folding full houses, but I also know that he's folding strong Ax combos to the flop raise, only continuing with exactly A4 or JJ+. I bet the turn for less than half pot hoping he was hanging on with AK or AQ, or getting KK-JJ to call a smaller bet, but when he raised, I shrugged and automatically jammed, thinking if he's got it he's got it. Can/Should I have taken a second and at least thought about folding a full house? Half of me says the GTO thing, if you start folding full houses, you're going to get exploited, but the other half says this villain barely knows how to spell poker, and he's raising large on a very dry board. What else could he have had other than aces? Honestly!? Is it possible to be making those kinds of reads, or am I being results oriented? I think in 5nl zoom, I'm absolutely playing the hand exactly this way 1,000,000 times in a row. Are these the kinds of things I should be looking out for in live poker?

Last question, did I murder this hand and should I reevaluate my life choices to play poker?
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11-13-2018 , 01:58 PM
If he's as bad as you say, he could easily play trips, or 53s, or AK like this. You said he also does weird bluffs. I'm always going broke vs this guy.
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11-13-2018 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
If he's as bad as you say, he could easily play trips, or 53s, or AK like this. You said he also does weird bluffs. I'm always going broke vs this guy.
Thank you. I have gone broke vs. this guy SEVERAL times. He's known as a luck box in our home games. Last night he had flopped quads over flopped full house in a SRP... TWICE. Also, the three times I played a pot with him before the posted hand where I flopped a set, he has flopped a higher set. He's always on the right side of coolers, it seems. I'm waiting for variance to kick in, but he appears immune. He holds the record for one outers in our home game group at three, including a straight vs. nut flush that rivered the straight flush. I want to play keep playing him, but he just always has it!
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11-13-2018 , 07:33 PM
This is just a cooler, get over it, move on with your life.
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11-13-2018 , 08:05 PM
I don't like the call w/ 22 in the sb or the flop x/r or the b/s on the turn. It's technically a "cooler" but none of it had to happen, and I definitely wouldn't be surprised by the hand he showed up with here.
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11-14-2018 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
I don't like the call w/ 22 in the sb or the flop x/r or the b/s on the turn. It's technically a "cooler" but none of it had to happen, and I definitely wouldn't be surprised by the hand he showed up with here.
Preflop is fine in an sng where players are awful and going to pay you off a bunch. For instance, this hand where had villain not hit an Ace, he's always stacking. Criticizing the fl x/r or tu play is incredibly results oriented.
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11-14-2018 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
Preflop is fine in an sng where players are awful and going to pay you off a bunch. For instance, this hand where had villain not hit an Ace, he's always stacking. Criticizing the fl x/r or tu play is incredibly results oriented.
I sort of agree with the first part but disagree with the second. I think flop/turn play flips his hand face up.
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11-14-2018 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
I think flop/turn play flips his hand face up.
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Originally Posted by .isolated
sng where players are awful and going to pay you off a bunch
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11-14-2018 , 11:11 AM
Hard to avoid , it is just a cooler
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