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Donk lead bluff OTR. Thoughts? Donk lead bluff OTR. Thoughts?

09-25-2018 , 01:01 AM
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NL Holdem $0.10(BB)
BTN ($18.86) [VPIP: 33.7% | PFR: 22.1% | AGG: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 5.9% | Hands: 87]
HERO ($10.39) [VPIP: 28.2% | PFR: 22.1% | AGG: 31% | 3-Bet: 10.4% | Hands: 48176]
BB ($10.10) [VPIP: 23.2% | PFR: 15% | AGG: 29.8% | 3-Bet: 6.6% | Hands: 2357]

Dealt to Hero: A 6

BTN Raises To $0.22, HERO Raises To $0.80, BB Folds, BTN Calls $0.58

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.64 effective]
Flop ($1.70): K J 7
HERO Bets $0.60 (Rem. Stack: 8.99), BTN Calls $0.60 (Rem. Stack: 17.46)

Turn ($2.90): K J 7 9
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $2.07 (Rem. Stack: 15.39), HERO Calls $2.07 (Rem. Stack: 6.92)

River ($7.04): K J 7 9 T
HERO Bets $6.92 (allin),
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09-25-2018 , 03:08 AM
why did you x/c turn?
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09-25-2018 , 03:10 AM
dont xc turn, better to barrel
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09-25-2018 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps
dont xc turn, better to barrel
9 hits his range. I didn’t want to barrel and get shoved on. Betting turn and getting shipped on sucks
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09-25-2018 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
9 hits his range. I didn’t want to barrel and get shoved on. Betting turn and getting shipped on sucks
but xcalling A high to a 2/3 psb doesnt?
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09-25-2018 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
9 hits his range. I didn’t want to barrel and get shoved on. Betting turn and getting shipped on sucks


You make these hand wave statements often, about certain cards hitting a range, or you have more xyz here or there. You need a real reason to not barrel a favorable card. This is not it. There is no universe where x/c turn is better than betting.

You are way overcomplicating one of the simplest ways to make money in NLHE, which is single and double barrels. I suspect you have massively overcomplicated all of your strategy.

Of course, you are not alone. Many posters seem to revel in the machinations of their own strategy posts.

I am simply trying to give you a friendly heads up, since you post frequently with somewhat interesting aggressive hand histories.

Stop the fancy thinking and fancy playing, just pound out the same aggro gto lines over and over all day. Profit.
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09-25-2018 , 12:33 PM
If you want to talk ranges, you rarely river a front-door flush after x/c turn
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09-25-2018 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
You make these hand wave statements often, about certain cards hitting a range, or you have more xyz here or there. You need a real reason to not barrel a favorable card. This is not it. There is no universe where x/c turn is better than betting.

You are way overcomplicating one of the simplest ways to make money in NLHE, which is single and double barrels. I suspect you have massively overcomplicated all of your strategy.

Of course, you are not alone. Many posters seem to revel in the machinations of their own strategy posts.

I am simply trying to give you a friendly heads up, since you post frequently with somewhat interesting aggressive hand histories.

Stop the fancy thinking and fancy playing, just pound out the same aggro gto lines over and over all day. Profit.
You’re probably right. Double barreling and giving up on the river is better. As played though do you think Villain calls his two pairs on this river?
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09-25-2018 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
You’re probably right. Double barreling and giving up on the river is better. As played though do you think Villain calls his two pairs on this river?


Once you make your final (hopefully correct) action, everything else is irrelevant. I am not even curious what villain calls or folds with. All that matters is try to play the hand optimally and try to ignore the immediate result. I assume the range of strong hands that fold are equally as lol as some of the hands that call.
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09-25-2018 , 01:46 PM
Gonna just +1 everything Robert said. Especially the results thing. My mantra is "results don't matter. decisions do.".
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09-25-2018 , 01:48 PM
usually when i overbet bluff jam i want to have some indication villain doesn't have the nuts.
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09-25-2018 , 03:26 PM
I’m curious, if this flop is a clear C-Bet. The K is better for your range, but with a 10% 3! Your range should be rather watered down in V’s eyes. No way is he folding anything better for 1 bet and he probably calls with a K or J on the turn too.

Really, your targeting small-medium pairs and better aces. Which is logical but I think takes 2 barrels in a lot of cases.

I like a check/call here. I don’t think that’s standard.

I hate the jam. He has shown strength and you have no blockers and he has a lot of Q’s in his range that will certainly call.
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09-25-2018 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GusMcrae
I’m curious, if this flop is a clear C-Bet. The K is better for your range, but with a 10% 3! Your range should be rather watered down in V’s eyes. No way is he folding anything better for 1 bet and he probably calls with a K or J on the turn too.

Really, your targeting small-medium pairs and better aces. Which is logical but I think takes 2 barrels in a lot of cases.

I like a check/call here. I don’t think that’s standard.

I hate the jam. He has shown strength and you have no blockers and he has a lot of Q’s in his range that will certainly call.
I agree he can have a lot of Queens. Do you think a hand like KTo folds here?
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09-26-2018 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
I agree he can have a lot of Queens. Do you think a hand like KTo folds here?
He has lots of 2 pair combos - both KT and JT. Maybe even a few KJ. I expect Kx 2P’s maybe like 1/2 call and a small number of JT’s call.

He has more flushes than you and tons of queens.

I think you maybe overbluffing this run out if you do it with A6h.

I definitely go for it with Asx. Maybe any A7ss. It’s hard to find bluffs on this board.

Last edited by GusMcrae; 09-26-2018 at 09:15 AM.
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