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Do I Need to be Calling Down here? Do I Need to be Calling Down here?

05-22-2020 , 07:51 PM
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NL Holdem $0.05(BB)
HERO ($5.74) [VPIP: 20.5% | PFR: 15.8% | AGG: 28.9% | Flop Agg: 31.3% | Turn Agg: 29.1% | River Agg: 23.4% | 3-Bet: 8.8% | 4-Bet: 8.6% | Hands: 59268]
CO ($16.1) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 100% | AGG: 100% | Flop Agg: 100% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 100% | 3-Bet: 100% | Fold to 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
BTN ($4.79) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
SB ($3.76) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
BB ($2.27) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]
UTG ($11.36) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 0% | River Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Hands: 1]

Dealt to Hero: K Q

UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $0.15, CO Raises To $0.25, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls $0.10

Hero SPR on Flop: [9.63 effective]
Flop ($0.57): 6 Q 6
HERO Checks, CO Bets $0.41 (Rem. Stack: 15.44), HERO Calls $0.41 (Rem. Stack: 5.08)

Turn ($1.39): 6 Q 6 8
HERO Checks, CO Bets $1 (Rem. Stack: 14.44), HERO Calls $1 (Rem. Stack: 4.08)

River ($3.39): 6 Q 6 8 4
HERO Checks, CO Bets $2.42 (Rem. Stack: 12.02), HERO Folds


Hey, guys hope you're doing well. This will probably be a longer than necessary post trying to explain my thoughts/range here just so you guys can give me the most informed info. Yeah, so here it is. In terms of my HJ RFI range that open, and then simply calls this weird min 3bet thing instead of 4 Betting it and actually interact with this board are as follows 66(1), A6s(2), 76s(2), 65s(2) 88(3), Q8s(2), AQo(9), KQo(9), QJs(3), QTs(3), Q9s(3) for a total of 39 combos. 10 combos of sets+, 2 combos 2pair, 27 combos of 1pair(I am only including combos that interact with the board because I am just calling down so the other combos seem unnecessary but if it would help with analysis then just let me know, and i'll add them). For me the call on flop and turn seems pretty standard. And while I have seen this min 3bet before and in my personal experience it is often pretty nutty hands like AA,KK that I guess they really want to get some value out of, I try my best to play my closest(and I am sure very flawed) approximation of a balanced strategy, so I put that aside. As we hit the river and I face a 3rd barrel of 70ish% pot I really start to think about my range of hands that make it this far. Off the top of my head I knew that the min defense frequency when facing a bet this size is something in the region of 60 percent give or take. I am not sure that min defense frequency is even something that should really be used at the table but I have it memorized for some of the more standard bet sizes, and use it to get an idea of how much of my range I need to protect in some spots that I am not particularly familiar with. Long post slightly less long, I used my C- level college drop out math to figure out that between trips, 2pair, and the AQo one pair hands, KQo doesn't need to make it into the defense range. Also to be completely honest I had/have no idea what hands he would have here which is why I tried my best to really just play this spot in as balanced a manner as I could. Let me know what you guys think, and what I am missing here. Please feel free to call me a fish or donk, or tell me that I am just completely missing the boat on balance or theory, because I can confirm that all of those things are true. Thanks for the help guys, and sorry about the long post.
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05-22-2020 , 09:55 PM
sorry I didn't read the whole text. I would call river.
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05-23-2020 , 05:13 AM
meh but reasonable call dwon
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05-24-2020 , 06:37 AM
You probably have to call that down even though I would not be happy about doing so. Usually that play screams AA or KK for me. If you had some kind of history with the opponent then maybe I would be able to fold top pair, decent kicker in that situation.
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05-24-2020 , 01:31 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the responses so far. And the fact that everyone has said they would be calling down here was a little surprising to me but i get it, and I am definitely not married to my fold here. So my next/new question then becomes, what is the worst Q we are calling here then? If we call all AQo, KQo, do we need to be calling QJs and QTs I would also have in this range, or do we call the AQ & KQ and fold all the other Q's?
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