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08-19-2018 , 09:04 AM

SuckMyTilt

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Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 243

Would liek some feedback on this please

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 220.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 102 BB (VPIP: 25.42, PFR: 20.34, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 122)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 161.5 BB (VPIP: 25.70, PFR: 19.28, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 258)
Hero (MP): 124 BB
CO: 67 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 22.73, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 22)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 2

UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 5

UTG bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

River: (51.5 BB, 2 players) Q

UTG bets 36.5 BB, Hero raises to 99 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 62.5 BB

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08-19-2018 , 09:28 AM

Asatorholdem

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Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 123

You have the A of dimonds which is good but he gets better than 3:1 on a call so he could call pretty wide (he just needs 25%). I don`t think on anybody folds anything for that price on the river.

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08-19-2018 , 09:36 AM

Ojune

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Originally Posted by Asatorholdem

You have the A of dimonds which is good but he gets better than 3:1 on a call so he could call pretty wide

not how it works, people should never bluff these spots. Villain should call slightly less than 50% of the time and us having the Ad makes that bluff +ev in theory but at nl2? hmm

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08-19-2018 , 09:45 AM

Asatorholdem

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Originally Posted by Ojune

not how it works, people should never bluff these spots. Villain should call slightly less than 50% of the time and us having the Ad makes that bluff +ev in theory but at nl2? hmm

Yes thats the math from our perspective. I just say what villian sees and basicly said the same thing don`t play gto Poker on NL2...

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08-19-2018 , 09:47 AM

Ojune

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so you'd bluffcatch here? Just **** it too good of a price?

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08-19-2018 , 09:50 AM

Asatorholdem

centurion

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Originally Posted by Ojune

so you'd bluffcatch here? Just **** it too good of a price?

Not me but most of NL2 players.

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08-19-2018 , 09:54 AM

Ojune

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Thought you said anybody

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08-19-2018 , 10:58 AM

THAFOST

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Why did you check back the flop? Good board to cbet with imo

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08-19-2018 , 10:59 AM

crow27

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Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 975

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Flop: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 2 T 6
UTG checks, Hero checks

I think you need to cbet here....atleast half pot. Checking screams AK or AQ on that board.

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Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

Unless you have a specific read/tell on V, just fold. You're drawing to MAX 14 outs.

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River: (51.5 BB, 2 players) Q
UTG bets 36.5 BB, Hero raises to 99 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 62.5 BB

Spew......nothing else

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08-19-2018 , 12:52 PM

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Rikk

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Originally Posted by crow27

I think you need to cbet here....atleast half pot. Checking screams AK or AQ on that board.

If you're only checking with AK/AQ on that board then your checking range is too weak imo

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Unless you have a specific read/tell on V, just fold. You're drawing to MAX 14 outs.

Lol what? We might not even be behind at this point. And like 7 of our outs are to the stone cold nuts, and we have good implied odds.

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08-19-2018 , 03:00 PM

#11

simplelessons

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Cbet with a diamond.

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08-22-2018 , 12:46 AM

#12

crow27

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We might not even be behind at this point

LOL ok you go ahead and keep calling 70% of pot sized turn bets when you "might not be behind" with A high in a 3bet pot. Let me know how that works out for you.

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08-22-2018 , 03:48 AM

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Rikk

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Originally Posted by crow27

LOL ok you go ahead and keep calling 70% of pot sized turn bets when you "might not be behind" with A high in a 3bet pot. Let me know how that works out for you.

At 2nl my WR was near 30bb/100 fwiw. AK is still the nut no pair and when we have 2 overs and the nut flush draw OTT folding to a single bet would be a mistake.

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08-22-2018 , 08:48 PM

#14

dynamite2006

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Everything was fine until the river. It's just too fancy for NL2. It's not a bad play in theory, but players at this level aren't playing a theory based game and we should be looking to exploit them because of that.

Folding this turn given the action would be pretty weak, imo.

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08-22-2018 , 10:10 PM

#15

spadez01

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Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 374

I think with the A

Kx i cbet here. Follow up with any low diamonds on the turn, and i dont think the Q

will hit villains range too often on the river so seems like agood runnout to barrel to me.

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08-23-2018 , 04:33 AM

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RalphWaldoEmerson

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don't like it.
V will have a good amt of strong value in his range (all the sets, some flushes) and will not be betting river too thinly on a 3flush turn. Even V's Qx may well exploitatively select a smaller sizing (like 50%). also neither the T nor Q being a diamond is bad for us.

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08-23-2018 , 05:14 AM

#17

sinnaJ

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,458

U dont rep anything its a very bad bluff

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08-23-2018 , 06:58 AM

#18

pipimeowmeow

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fold river... bad spot to bluff when villain seems committed

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