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03-19-2021 , 05:32 AM
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.6 BB
SB: 104.8 BB
BB: 240.24 BB
UTG: 191.76 BB
Hero (MP): 179.92 BB
CO: 77.52 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to 2.2 BB, Hero raises to 7.48 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 23.2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 15.72 BB

Flop: (49.6 BB, 2 players) 9 6 9
SB bets 16 BB, Hero raises to 156.72 BB and is all-in, SB calls 65.6 BB and is all-in

Turn: (212.8 BB, 2 players) 8

River: (212.8 BB, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:
SB shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Nines)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 204.8 BB


Villain who cold 4 bets is a pretty unkown reg who 3 betted 8/43, no 4 bet stats. should I find a fold here? Or, just a call OTF and stack off with a safe turn?
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03-19-2021 , 06:20 AM
Jam pre.
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03-19-2021 , 07:24 AM
25z is a nit fest, so ok to explo fold pre or on the flop.
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03-19-2021 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Spud Gun
25z is a nit fest, so ok to explo fold pre or on the flop.
Oh it was zoom sorry I still don't know though.
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03-19-2021 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Spud Gun
25z is a nit fest, so ok to explo fold pre or on the flop.
Yeah it’s pretty crazy how nitty everyone is. How about calling flop / folding turn in case I’m against AK?
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03-19-2021 , 07:56 AM
push pre or as you played. like it but you will get stacked by KK+ a lot of times but can't fold this
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03-19-2021 , 08:41 AM
You should decide what to do pre based on how nitty pfr of UTG is, people dont 3 or 4bet bluff 8-10% openings 100bb deep, especially if blinds can call behind (they are protected from sqeezes by EP tight range)
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03-19-2021 , 09:33 AM
Given both your hands, difficult to not get stacked. Could jam pre, although I think cold 4bets tend to be more value heavy than 4betting after rfi. The way villain played, it looks like value range is KK+, maybe also including QQ and some JJ. Bluff range will be very A and K heavy, with any FD he has. So my plan would be to call flop to call down unless an A hits (definitely switch to check fold), or a K or 3rd h (very high check fold frequency, maybe only call down with QhQs). Don't think a jam is bad, as you'll fold out a lot of equity with it, and you should have some 9s which villain won't, maybe even an ambitious 66. Merging some QQ (especially without a h) into that range probably works, particularly you expect villain to call with worse (JJ, TT).
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03-19-2021 , 09:45 AM
Hand is fine in theory

However, in practice QQ is probably going to start mixing folds against the SB's sizing. If you think the pool isn't 4-betting enough Ax suited, Kx suited then its possible that QQ should just be a fold
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03-19-2021 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hydra564
Hand is fine in theory

However, in practice QQ is probably going to start mixing folds against the SB's sizing. If you think the pool isn't 4-betting enough Ax suited, Kx suited then its possible that QQ should just be a fold

those ax suited bluffs is aqs exactly and kx suited bluffs is kqs exactly, if you are cold 4betting more than this you are just maniac
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03-20-2021 , 05:35 AM
don't fold pre
call if you want a calling range built around AQs/QQ/AA, jam QQ+,AK otherwise
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03-20-2021 , 05:57 AM
This is fine
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