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NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
BTN ($25) [VPIP: 20.8% | PFR: 17.1% | AGG: 35.5% | 3-Bet: 9% | Hands: 1567]
SB ($43.27) [VPIP: 22.7% | PFR: 16.5% | AGG: 24.1% | 3-Bet: 12.4% | Hands: 249]
BB ($25.70) [VPIP: 23.9% | PFR: 18.4% | AGG: 42.6% | 3-Bet: 8% | Hands: 1010]
UTG ($26.19) [VPIP: 23.9% | PFR: 18.4% | AGG: 32.5% | 3-Bet: 6.6% | Hands: 724]
HJ ($29.15) [VPIP: 19.3% | PFR: 13.1% | AGG: 33.6% | 3-Bet: 5.3% | Hands: 592]
HERO ($32.16) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 30.9% | 3-Bet: 10.4% | Hands: 61382]

Dealt to Hero: A K

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, HERO Raises To $0.55, BTN Folds, SB Calls $0.45, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [23.41 effective]
Flop ($1.35): 6 Q Q
SB Checks, HERO Bets $1 (Rem. Stack: 30.61), SB Calls $1 (Rem. Stack: 41.72)

Turn ($3.35): 6 Q Q 8
SB Checks, HERO Bets $5 (Rem. Stack: 25.61), SB Calls $5 (Rem. Stack: 36.72)

River ($13.35): 6 Q Q 8 J
SB Checks, HERO Bets $25.61 (allin)

sizing on all streets is kind of crazy, you have huge range advantage on flop, you do not have to bet 3/4 pot. We also have position. Turn overbet is kind of crazy as well, we don't have to overbet pot. The hands that we want him to fold probably fold for a smaller amount, hands that will not fold call any amount. River jam is nuts, we do have the nut flush blocker, and he is going to be hard pressed to call with a lot of his range. I probably triple this hand on this specific runout against villain w/ these stats, seems pretty loose passive, but you now polarize range heavily with this river jam. If you didn't escalate the betting you could have repped a larger value range instead of boats / nut flush.

I don't see how else you can play this combo of hand.

Tone down the aggression A LOT. There's no need to bet anywhere near what you are betting. Villain can just call when he has the virtual nuts here and still make a huge profit.

It's one of those spots where I would think you're full of **** because you never play your value hands like this.

A good question to ask yourself when you're bluffing is what value hands do I play like this? A good question to ask yourself when you're betting is what bluffs do I play like this?

You have all the wrong blockers here, you want him to have AQ, KQ and block FHes if you represent one.

hahahah...you must really believe your read on the villain to pull something like this

This can’t be correct

I play value hands like this, why not?

People get FPS with bluffs a lot more than they do with value hands. Do you do this with Qx? FH? flushes? I really don't think so. Post a hand where you do something like this with a value hand.

If I had Qx here I'm loling whilst I x/c.

Heres some overbet value bets but obviously a different spot.

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
SB ($24.75) [VPIP: 20% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 6]
HERO ($26.84) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 30.9% | 3-Bet: 10.4% | Hands: 61405]
CO ($26.61) [VPIP: 23.9% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 28.7% | 3-Bet: 5.4% | Hands: 1814]
BTN ($25) [VPIP: 26.6% | PFR: 19.5% | AGG: 29.1% | 3-Bet: 8.3% | Hands: 1316]

Dealt to Hero: 4 6

CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Raises To $0.50, HERO Calls $0.25

Hero SPR on Flop: [24.25 effective]
Flop ($1.00): A 8 7
SB Bets $0.47 (Rem. Stack: 23.78), HERO Raises To $2 (Rem. Stack: 24.34), SB Calls $1.53 (Rem. Stack: 22.25)

Turn ($5.00): A 8 7 5
SB Checks, HERO Bets $3.75 (Rem. Stack: 20.59), SB Calls $3.75 (Rem. Stack: 18.50)

River ($12.50): A 8 7 5 2
SB Checks, HERO Bets $20.59 (allin), SB Calls $18.50 (allin)



Here's another spot

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
SB ($25) [VPIP: 26.6% | PFR: 20.2% | AGG: 25.5% | 3-Bet: 6.4% | Hands: 3204]
BB ($32.30) [VPIP: 23.4% | PFR: 18.4% | AGG: 28.6% | 3-Bet: 6.1% | Hands: 601]
HJ ($25.35) [VPIP: 19.1% | PFR: 13.3% | AGG: 32.4% | 3-Bet: 11% | Hands: 303]
CO ($29.39) [VPIP: 27.6% | PFR: 22% | AGG: 41.8% | 3-Bet: 7.4% | Hands: 1054]
HERO ($32.47) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 30.9% | 3-Bet: 10.4% | Hands: 61405]

Dealt to Hero: 6 8

HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.55, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.30

Hero SPR on Flop: [26.46 effective]
Flop ($1.20): 3 J A
BB Checks, HERO Bets $1 (Rem. Stack: 30.92), BB Calls $1 (Rem. Stack: 30.75)

Turn ($3.20): 3 J A 6
BB Checks, HERO Bets $5 (Rem. Stack: 25.92), BB Calls $5 (Rem. Stack: 25.75)

River ($13.20): 3 J A 6 6
BB Checks, HERO Bets $25.92 (allin), BB Calls $25.75 (allin)



Hand #3

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
BB ($25) [VPIP: 24% | PFR: 18.5% | AGG: 42.7% | 3-Bet: 8% | Hands: 1017]
UTG ($40.14) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 16% | AGG: 38.3% | 3-Bet: 7.1% | Hands: 1469]
HJ ($29.99) [VPIP: 22.5% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 28.1% | 3-Bet: 6.5% | Hands: 1954]
CO ($19.12) [VPIP: 22.6% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 39.6% | 3-Bet: 6.6% | Hands: 1314]
BTN ($31.24) [VPIP: 20.4% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 44.2% | 3-Bet: 8.3% | Hands: 1933]
HERO ($42.03) [VPIP: 27.9% | PFR: 21.7% | AGG: 30.9% | 3-Bet: 10.4% | Hands: 61405]

Dealt to Hero: J T

UTG Raises To $0.50, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $2, BB Folds, UTG Calls $1.50

Hero SPR on Flop: [8.97 effective]
Flop ($4.25): 2 7 Q
HERO Bets $2.50 (Rem. Stack: 37.53), UTG Calls $2.50 (Rem. Stack: 35.64)

Turn ($9.25): 2 7 Q 7
HERO Bets $6.50 (Rem. Stack: 31.03), UTG Calls $6.50 (Rem. Stack: 29.14)

River ($22.25): 2 7 Q 7 4
HERO Bets $31.03 (allin), UTG Calls $29.14 (allin)

Cool.

If your strat works perfectly what's the problem?

If only it were that easy. Just curious to see people’s thoughts on the hand. I think Qx folds here but what about flushes?

villain has really good hands when he flats your turn overbet. not sure why you thought much would change on the river.

You think microstakes players are going to fold trips and flushes just because you bet really big and pretend you have a FH?

If that were the case, then this thread wouldn't exist.

I'd go a little smaller otf since its dry, we have range advantage, IP, blah blah blah.
Having an overbet range on this turn is good but not sure about size. Over betting with this hand seems fine since it has good blockers.
I would wouldn't shove with this combo. You block nut flush but you also block trips with your K. AcJx or AcTx would be better bluffs.

This exactly. I still think this is a not terrible spot to barrel, but when we overbet 2 streets, we have very strongly defined opponent's range, river is a punt after we have the benefit of seeing what he does vs a turn overbet.

I think that you are missing a fundamental aspect of play at the microstakes level, which is that we make more by having opponents make undisciplined calls with hands that should be folded rather than used as bluffcatchers than we do by trying to have villains make disciplined laydowns with the top of their range.

IOW, don't try to make 25nl players fold the top of their range.

If you're looking at this hand as an overall strategy instead of a vacuum hand, all that matters is if this combo is a good hand to bluff. Figure out value:bluff ratio and work from there if this was good or not. I'm sure I'm not telling you anything you don't know

yeah true thanks for the advice.

Pretty good bluff candidate

I think he's hoping they might be able to lay down 2 pair

op should be playing 100nl

this is even better if he doesnt have QJo and 88 in his range

great bluff candiate, flop and river sizing are fine. Think turn is a mistake tho you dont wanna rep too polar by the turn imo since u still wanna v.bet Qx. River u can just rip it all in and say well i have JJ,QJ,88 or A high flush and well that is a ton of value combos which are easily balanced by AcKx

what i will say is that from my own experience, you do not need that sort of play to crush up to 50z (5bb+)

I think this is the perfect way to play this combo given really good blockers, but I agree smaller turn and bigger river shove might be slightly better. However I also agree this would be a -Ev line vs the player pool at, say, 2-5nl Zoom. I guess it’s finding the inflection point where the player pool is capable of folding Qx and weaker flushes.

yeah i probably could have bet the turn a little smaller in retrospect. Thx for the feedback, gotta get the roll up first. Probably play 50k hands @25NL then hit up 50NL.

ACR games are harder on average then most sites but regs still have a ton of leaks (as I'm sure i do too).

tbh, most regs are so nitty that being overaggressive tends to pay off in games like that