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09-19-2018 , 09:06 PM

WillMurderface

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Raised turn to get more from villain's pair or 2 pairs which, a rec, would hardly ever fold?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 233 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 104 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 177.5 BB
UTG: 108 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
MP: 109 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
CO: 163.5 BB (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 28)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 3

SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (6 BB, 2 players) K

SB bets 2 BB, Hero raises to 6.5 BB, fold,

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09-19-2018 , 11:18 PM

afortiori

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Bet flop.

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09-19-2018 , 11:21 PM

WillMurderface

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Originally Posted by afortiori

Bet flop.

I think flop it's a standard check.

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09-19-2018 , 11:54 PM

afortiori

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why?

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09-20-2018 , 12:12 AM

WillMurderface

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Originally Posted by afortiori

why?

AQ high has decent showdown value and, this way, I manage to have some flushes in my flop check range. I would also check A4dd.

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09-20-2018 , 12:30 AM

.isolated

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bet flop. x on a more connected flop that your range doesn't love. also, putting money in with a bunch of equity is

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09-20-2018 , 01:05 AM

WorldzMine

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Originally Posted by WillMurderface

I think flop it's a standard check.

No. But obv checking is fine some percentage of the time also.

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09-20-2018 , 04:57 AM

ionutd

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when you have this much equity , your opponent's range is weak, you can barrel turns and can c/ rivers with sdv, you need to start betting. not only do you build a bigger pot for when you hit, but you pick money on flop, on plenty of turn give-ups and you can safely c/ rivers you don't like

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09-20-2018 , 05:06 AM

Ojune

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Checking back flop has some merits but I would expect betting to be more profitable. Would raise bigger ott as played.

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09-20-2018 , 09:40 AM

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ChipsNcrisps

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Originally Posted by WillMurderface

I think flop it's a standard check.

no. bet flop.

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09-20-2018 , 02:09 PM

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ArtyMcFly

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In a BvB pot where villain limp-called pre, AQdd is basically a value-bet on this flop. It can also comfortably call a x-raise, so betting is good. When the ranges are weak/wide, like in this spot, and you want to be able to bet all your top pairs+ (and some bottom pairs), pretty much all your draws (and some backdoors) should be c-bets in position. I don't know what your iso-range is in this spot, but I'm sure you can find plenty of other combos that make more sense as check-backs. I don't see much upside for checking this one.

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