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04-23-2019 , 06:15 PM
PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $283.46
UTG: $291.48
MP: $109.00
CO: $324.92
BTN: $165.72
Hero (SB): $254.90

Hero posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has A 8

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.00, 2 players) 6 9 2



PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $275.00
BB: $219.15
UTG: $365.49
MP: $315.33
CO: $271.07
BTN: $200.00

Hero posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has T Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.00, 2 players) 7 J J



PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $256.12
UTG: $200.00
MP: $477.42
CO: $197.00
BTN: $373.30
Hero (SB): $192.55

Hero posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has 5 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.00, 2 players) 4 Q 4



PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $194.00
Hero (SB): $327.22
BB: $209.25
UTG: $161.91
MP: $974.80
CO: $17.41

Hero posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has 3 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.00, 2 players) 5 8 K



PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $202.00
Hero (SB): $186.00
BB: $144.49
UTG: $230.04
MP: $201.00
CO: $220.00

Hero posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has A 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.00, 2 players) Q T K


just wondering how people proceed in these spots
sry for wall of text but think its interesting discussion to look at multiple spots which have similarities yet differences

Last edited by RalphWaldoEmerson; 04-23-2019 at 06:21 PM.
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04-24-2019 , 01:20 PM
Vs most villains I just let it go. If vs someone with high fold to cbet, the last 3 could be justified as bdfd/g.s. bets, which is pretty thin. the ones prior would be pure airballs. Sometimes it feels like you're just opening and giving the pot away 100x in a row, but, unless you have a solid read , deviating from strong semi bluffs/made hands seems like trouble.

Also, you could consider opening 2.5x then it has to work even less
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04-24-2019 , 02:52 PM
1. check fold, floated to much we have nos spades or diamonds we don't hit that board
2. bet small flop bet 3/4 turn, we block few Jx got floated often here so fire two times at least
3. check call, hand is good enough maybe bluff down the line but start of with check call
4. bet small flop, bet big on spade turn and bet huge on lot of rivers
5. similar to hand 4 but a lot of 3 barrel bluffs, K high flops are just so good for our range
6. another flop good for our range fire


Just quick thoughts
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04-24-2019 , 05:34 PM
there are many different ways to play these hands, if you're not looking for a balanced strategy I'd cbet most of them rather big as I think turning A high into a bluff has a higher EV than trying to get it to SD. I think all of these can be c-bet, board 4 and 5 could also be second barreled under some circumstances

Last edited by Acryl2; 04-24-2019 at 05:42 PM.
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04-25-2019 , 07:06 AM
if you want to cb range for 1/3, it's prob fine to cb all 3
1st one looks more like a x to me but w/e, hard to go wrong with small range cb
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05-02-2019 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Lazarus Ledd
2. bet small flop bet 3/4 turn, we block few Jx got floated often here so fire two times at least
3. check call, hand is good enough maybe bluff down the line but start of with check call
4. bet small flop, bet big on spade turn and bet huge on lot of rivers
2. I also like to double barrel these bc IP peels lot of bare Ax
3-4. so you XC Q44f but cbet small on K85f? seems like those textures are similar for Hero's range adv and I'd prob just cbet small on both

Quote:
Originally Posted by ionutd
if you want to cb range for 1/3, it's prob fine to cb all 3
1st one looks more like a x to me but w/e, hard to go wrong with small range cb
yeah typically I would cbet high freq for small size on these textures (and all similarly dry or drier textures) but I've been re-thinking that lately. I don't love the rangebet OOP bc IP gets to float so cheaply and even when we barrel all our semibluffs (plus some random two overcard combos or whatnot) still feels like we end up XF'ing a lot. My fold after checking turn OOP stat is 50+% I think which seems bad...
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05-02-2019 , 07:26 PM
how I would play these currently...

1. XC
2. cbet range small
3. cbet range small
4. not sure, small high freq cbet seems fine, but I also sometimes cbet 50-60%
5. mostly XC
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05-02-2019 , 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ionutd
if you want to cb range for 1/3, it's prob fine to cb all 3
1st one looks more like a x to me but w/e, hard to go wrong with small range cb
Pretty much my same thoughts.
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