Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 225.8 BB (VPIP: 28.13, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 64)
MP: 103.3 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.73, 3Bet Preflop: 18.75, Hands: 45)
CO: 98.1 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 15.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.65, Hands: 444)
BTN: 96.9 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 70)
Hero (SB): 215 BB
BB: 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 8 9 J
Hero checks, UTG bets 4.4 BB, Hero raises to 13.2 BB, UTG raises to 36 BB, Hero?

Gross spot.

I really don't know. 100-150bbs deep I'm just going with it and getting my chips in the middle. I think I still probably am because if V does have any kind of draw we need to be extracting the full amount for it. Even if V flopped the straight we have pretty good equity.

It’s really tough being this deep. There are 10 combos of hands that are ahead of us that are in VIL’s range. If you think VIL could open UTG with T7s that’s 4 more. I’d be more worried about other sets than the straight. Most people wouldn’t open with QTo, so there’s really only 4 combos of that. I think VIL could also have an overpair or maybe AJcc. I think calling is best here since we have position and only need to be right about 38% of the time. If we are in a set over set situation we might be able to bluff him off 99. I don’t think VIL is bluffing, but I think there are hands that we crush that VIL could be “value” betting. If VIL seems nitty and continues the agression on the turn then a fold seems reasonable.

We're in the SB so we're actually OOP

Most people are limping QTo, but more are opening it than I think you think. Even UTG.

I don't really like jamming when we are this deep because we're almost always getting it in either way behind or be basically flipping with a hand like ATcc or JTcc. However, we only need around 30% equity to make this call and I think we definitely have that vs V's flop three-betting range. So in this spot, I think I would call and re-evaluate on the turn.

Call with current stack depths, shoving is only folding out absolute bluffs and with such a board I don't think you're getting folds often enough. Perhaps evaluate turn and play conservatively, there's still a chance you're against AA/KK with club blockers that want to throw you off draws with this raise so I think folding otf is too weak.

I can see going both ways. Actually my biggest reason for not shoving is folding out qq+.... so I guess I'd call. Definitely not folding though.

Thanks for all comments.

Hero calls 22.8 BB

Turn: (79 BB, 2 players) K
Hero checks, UTG bets 186.8 BB and is all-in, Hero?

On one hand, 3 combinations of KK are now ahead. On the other hand, three hands (AK, KQ and KJ) which would have bet and 3-bet flop and maybe checked turn behind would possibly bet here.

All told, I'm calling with a set here every time, even if it's a bad play and it may well be.

Very close spot, but I think there are enough combo draws and pair plus flush draws that would jam this turn to make a call profitable.

Looking at the hand now, I think the flop raise might've been a bit small given stack depths and how scary the board was.

I don't feel like KK is 3betting the flop too often, or overshoving when it hits a set OTT so K is almost a brick. Think I'm still calling it off.

You should fold. I don't think it's even as close as people are making it when he just overbet jams. For example, JTcc isn't likely to be in his range anymore when he does this. It's a lot more likely to be a nutty hand. My source is experience

what is your calling range OTT? JJ & QTs?

Wouldn't have QTs from preflop so......

You also probably wouldn't have JJ either.

You'd be wrong.

OTF we are hoping we're good but mainly hoping for a board pair and calling. OTT we can just fold.

Villian hand screams QT

You call JJ in the sb vs an UTG raise?

That's correct.

It's a nice hand to have in a flatting range vs UTG open imo, if you have a flatting range.

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Calling flop I pressume?

fold to the flop 3b

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is it just an exploitative fold or gto fold