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Bluffing multiway hand selection question/ do you call this river? Bluffing multiway hand selection question/ do you call this river?

08-17-2019 , 03:45 PM
Is this a good candidate for bluffing multiway? I chose to do so because of BDFD + if I hit an ace it will often be good + I block KQ and AK often 3b preflop so villains have less Kx than usual.

Do you call river?



- Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 59 BB (VPIP: 52.63, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
Hero (UTG): 105 BB
MP: 196.15 BB (VPIP: 18.97, PFR: 12.49, 3Bet Preflop: 4.75, Hands: 1,027)
CO: 138.7 BB (VPIP: 28.09, PFR: 24.26, 3Bet Preflop: 12.09, Hands: 243)
BTN: 358.3 BB (VPIP: 38.23, PFR: 22.95, 3Bet Preflop: 7.00, Hands: 298)
SB: 96.65 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 21)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) K 3 7
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 3.6 BB, fold, BB calls 3.6 BB

Turn: (16.2 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, BB calls 10 BB

River: (36.2 BB, 2 players) J
BB bets 18.1 BB, Hero ?
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08-17-2019 , 03:52 PM
definitely a cbet but disagree w/the sizing, we want to leverage a massive range adv by getting money in

ez river call for half pot vs. fishy stats
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08-17-2019 , 05:10 PM
3:1 with quite a good catcher, blocking aces up, flushes, and straights, I will call this combo. It seems to be pretty straightforward river decision.

Idk about starting to barrel broken stack fish / SB cold caller, this board is incredibly good for our range, but this hand doesn't show down too poorly, either. HU I'd be more inclined to c-bet, I tend to not target these players very aggressively esp MW, but perhaps I am just a complete nit.

actually, now that I look at their stats, they are both fish.
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08-17-2019 , 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
definitely a cbet but disagree w/the sizing, we want to leverage a massive range adv by getting money in

ez river call for half pot vs. fishy stats
Do you use a bigger sizing as a default when on Axx boards where you can rep all the nutted combos as the preflop agressor or would you size up on this particular board where villains can't have many better hands, meaning they don't have many twopairs in their preflop range if any.

For example would you also argue for sizing up on a board like this? For arguments sake lets assume the bottom situation is also 3way not 4way as it is?

(6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 94.6 BB (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
BB: 87.9 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 26.32, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 98)
Hero (UTG): 196.7 BB
MP: 103.8 BB (VPIP: 58.62, PFR: 21.26, 3Bet Preflop: 7.25, Hands: 177)
CO: 109 BB (VPIP: 17.73, PFR: 13.38, 3Bet Preflop: 3.99, Hands: 2,297)
BTN: 114.5 BB (VPIP: 23.28, PFR: 16.96, 3Bet Preflop: 4.19, Hands: 1,333)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) A T 2
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08-17-2019 , 05:25 PM
AT2 TT is going to be either small or big favoring by 2:1 a larger sizing in a HU pot.

an approximation, just remembering sims

like 33% or 80% with 80% being heavily favored
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08-17-2019 , 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amazin lazer
AT2 TT is going to be either small or big favoring by 2:1 a larger sizing in a HU pot.

an approximation, just remembering sims

like 33% or 80% with 80% being heavily favored
With sims you mean piosolver? Also if i'm not mistaken you are mentioning bet sizing for TT but we are holding AK?
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08-17-2019 , 05:56 PM
two tone, I don't have pio solver, I have gto+, but same diff

The range that we bet on the board OOP vs a cold caller in a HU pot is going to prefer a larger size, AK is going to be bet high, high frequency.
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08-17-2019 , 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by amazin lazer
two tone, I don't have pio solver, I have gto+, but same diff

The range that we bet on the board OOP vs a cold caller in a HU pot is going to prefer a larger size, AK is going to be bet high, high frequency.
Ah, I see thanks would you say playing around with GTO+ has improved your game/ was worth its price? I currently only have equilab/flopzilla but feel a bit lost exactly with these kind of questions about sizings etc...
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08-17-2019 , 06:17 PM
yah, definitely worth the price. it's only like 80 bucks. It also does databasing just like pio, so you can comprehensively look at certain spots in depth, like BU vs BB in a single raised pot, and then look at a bunch of different boards to see how each range is faring, out of what sizings which one is favored for a c-bet etc.
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