This hand is bothering me some what and I cant seem to drop the after thought of this hand being almost an exact hand we would like to hold to triple barrel bluff/shove on this run out.
I'm interested in what other players think about this 3Bet?
I never know if I should 3Bet something like T9s vs this kind of players (I know the sample is small, but still 44/31/35). I'm not sure if someone like that folds preflop or postflop enough, so I'm wandering if I should be more value oriented? I'm not jamming river, but what do i know
Also, isn't it standard to Cbet 50% in 3Bet pots? Also, I 3Bet 4x.
Bit smaller on flop and bit more on turn. River is fine, villain is never folding anything he got to the river with (well actually, he is!). Make note on villain and value bet him to oblivion, but river is never a shove against your average player.
Turn should be around 50 bb. I'm not sure about the river, we block 99 and tt which is close to the top of villians stationing range and don't block a/k/q high fds. But maybe v should fold 99 to a shove so we don't want to block it. JT would be better but 9T cant be that bad.
Last edited by simplelessons; 10-20-2018 at 10:22 AM.
^^ I'd agree, and I would be putting this hand into my barreling/bluffing range. This river is a great blank.
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Originally Posted by Dr_Doctr
River is fine, villain is never folding anything he got to the river with (well actually, he is!). Make note on villain and value bet him to oblivion, but river is never a shove against your average player.
We don't have showdown value here and my hunch is that a bluff is higher EV because checking is almost never winning.
Plus, I think there's a lot of hands that fold out to a shove. The CO calling caps their range a bit, so we're going to see some smaller pocket pairs, but I'm discounting sets because they've played so passively, and there's still a lot of high cards and draws.
Yeah I think it’s a good candidate for a triple. I imagine a fairly wide pre flop looking 3B player would 4B QQ+ pre. Possibly JJ at a decent frequency, we certainly block some hands that call turn and fold river. But block TT and 99.
I think the turn sizing is wrong. We 3B pre, cb flop multiway, so we are really polar here. Our value range requires a bigger bet especially so deep.
This is where I see a mistake anyway. AKo probably drops it there to a more substantial size.
I'm interested in what other players think about this 3Bet?
FWIW, I draw the line at JTs in SB vs a CO 3x, and would just fold T9s, but it can't be terrible to 3-bet it as it's only just outside my default range, and lots of regs seem to 3-bet T9s in this spot as standard.
I'd usually go with 10bb or 10.5bb as the sizing, btw.
C/f-Turn-There are two FD so he is not overfolding this spot we get dominated when we hit the flush and we block some of his folding range
I would bluff with stronger FD and then bluff river with spade FD because those block less of his river folding range.