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Biggest loser in online poker history wants to try last time Biggest loser in online poker history wants to try last time

02-22-2019 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ILMCS
I doubt these are the right stats. Even with those stacks it should be impossible to lose 1 1/2 stack per 100 hands. And it´s not bad luck since your EV is the same.

Seems more like you 3bet A3o and then shove any flop? I mean people must realize how bad you are. You are not unlucky, you are just bad.
02-22-2019 , 05:16 PM
OP what time do you usually play? You can sit at an empty table and we can play some HU if you want to prove your graph is real. If you don't want to HU4rollz you can just play your normal game and I will open all the 2nl tables I can in order to find you.
02-22-2019 , 07:26 PM
3-bet vs steal of 43%!
Pro-tip: Don't bloat the pot OOP with hands like K7o or Q4s unless you hate money.

If this is real, then OP is just a maniac. No wonder he's getting no respect for his raises. C-betting 90% of the time when your range is full of garbage is terrible too.
02-22-2019 , 07:30 PM
Right. Those are aggro whale stats, but I didn't think even they lost at OP's rate tbh.

Anyone else catch him say something along the lines of "and then I try to push A3 and everyone calls?" a few posts back? I was just like wtf??? There's no real situation you should ever be pushing A3 in a cash game 100 bb deep in the micro's. lol

Last edited by WorldzMine; 02-22-2019 at 07:35 PM.
02-23-2019 , 02:31 AM
Stop playing for a week, go read the blog of the biggest winner in 2nl history Blackrain79 who will tell you to play tighter along with lots of other useful tips which will easily equip you with the tools necessary to beat 2nl.

Let go of your current strategy: it is not working. Adopt the biggest winning strategy.

2nl villains do not fold enough, no matter if you bluff them a lot or not. If they did fold enough vs underbluffers, Blackrain79 would not be the biggest 2nl winner by using the underbluffing strategy.
02-23-2019 , 02:33 AM
Yeah it's an open shut case for a troll. Hope you're happy with wasting our time
02-23-2019 , 02:45 AM
https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/29992/

It's no troll; here's a video of him 2.5x overbet jamming the straight on a 3flush 4straight board, inadvertently turning the straight into a bluff. Showing 38/32 stats.

I mean unless this is a running troll since 2013...
02-23-2019 , 03:29 AM
Meh it's bad, but it's not 170bb/100 bad. Has to be a troll, there's no way anyone is this stupid.
02-23-2019 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by drakelol
OP what time do you usually play? You can sit at an empty table and we can play some HU if you want to prove your graph is real. If you don't want to HU4rollz you can just play your normal game and I will open all the 2nl tables I can in order to find you.
I'm now at the tables party nl2
02-23-2019 , 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
Meh it's bad, but it's not 170bb/100 bad. Has to be a troll, there's no way anyone is this stupid.
But you have to admire his perseverance. But that is the only positive I can come up with. Otherwise, it is just dumb (sorry to write this). But if you donate as much money on purpose, you don´t deserve better. I just hope OP is single and does not have to care for other people.
02-23-2019 , 06:41 AM
It's more or less $1k per year
it's fine
02-23-2019 , 06:49 AM
OP - have you made any changes to the way you play since you started the thread? Have you done any proper study since then?
02-23-2019 , 07:16 AM
I'm confused now and think the graphs etc might be true. I found OP at a 2nl table and he proceeded to donate 3-4 buyins in under 100 hands.
He played ~40/35 with a 25%+ 3b, but 4 bet only 0/5 times and folded some turns and rivers vs aggression. In the last 20 hands though he 4bai A6o, open jammed K3s and some other BS.

Basically he played like a -20 or -50bb/100 aggro fish with a fold button for 60 hands and then started shoving random hands until he lost 3-4 buyins and then left.
I understand being a rec and doing some dumb **** but what I don't get is:

* doing this over and over for 200k hands
* buying PT4 but not using it any meaningful way
* being unable to follow basic pre flop charts, despite reading books, watching videos etc
* Wanting to "try one last time" but apparently doing exactly the same **** as before over and over again
02-23-2019 , 07:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by drakelol
I'm confused now and think the graphs etc might be true. I found OP at a 2nl table and he proceeded to donate 3-4 buyins in under 100 hands.
He played ~40/35 with a 25%+ 3b, but 4 bet only 0/5 times and folded some turns and rivers vs aggression. In the last 20 hands though he 4bai A6o, open jammed K3s and some other BS.

Basically he played like a -20 or -50bb/100 aggro fish with a fold button for 60 hands and then started shoving random hands until he lost 3-4 buyins and then left.
I understand being a rec and doing some dumb **** but what I don't get is:

* doing this over and over for 200k hands
* buying PT4 but not using it any meaningful way
* being unable to follow basic pre flop charts, despite reading books, watching videos etc
* Wanting to "try one last time" but apparently doing exactly the same **** as before over and over again
My game started good but then russian player "Ropratew" sit on my right side and started to raise every button. If 3bet he calls and don't fold any flops. My only option is shove all in. But I don't win any hands.

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players

Player1 (UTG): $5.10 (255 bb)
Player3 (CO): $3.93 (197 bb)
Paisting (BU): $2.06 (103 bb)
Player5 (SB): $2.94 (147 bb)
Player6 (BB): $3.05 (153 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with Q Q
Player1 (UTG) raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Paisting (BU) 3-bets to $0.24, 2 players fold, Player1 (UTG) 4-bets to $5.10 (all-in), Paisting (BU) calls $1.82 (all-in)

Flop: ($4.15) 2 2 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($4.15) T (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.15) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.15 (Rake: $0.20)

Showdown:
Player1 (UTG) shows T T (a full house, Tens full of Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Paisting (BU) shows Q Q (two pair, Queens and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

Player1 (UTG) wins $3.95

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Player3 (UTG): $2.50 (125 bb)
Player4 (MP): $2.50 (125 bb)
Player5 (CO): $2.00 (100 bb)
Paisting (BU): $12.79 (640 bb)
Player1 (SB): $8.31 (416 bb)
Player2 (BB): $2.03 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is BTN with J J
3 players fold, Paisting (BU) raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Player2 (BB) 3-bets to $0.28, Paisting (BU) 4-bets to $12.79 (all-in), Player2 (BB) calls $1.75 (all-in)

Flop: ($4.07) Q A 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($4.07) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.07) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.07 (Rake: $0.20)

Showdown:
Paisting (BU) shows J J (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 87%, Turn: 95%, River: 0%)

Player2 (BB) shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 5%, River: 100%)

Player2 (BB) wins $3.87

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players

Player4 (UTG): $2.00 (100 bb)
Player5 (MP): $44.58 (2229 bb)
Paisting (CO): $10.07 (504 bb)
Player1 (BU): $26.09 (1305 bb)
Player2 (SB): $8.52 (426 bb)
Player3 (BB): $12.68 (634 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (Paisting) is CO with 7 7
Player4 (UTG) raises to $0.04, 1 fold, Paisting (CO) 3-bets to $10.07 (all-in), 3 players fold, Player4 (UTG) calls $1.96 (all-in)

Flop: ($4.03) K 4 K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($4.03) A (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($4.03) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.03 (Rake: $0.20)

Showdown:
Paisting (CO) shows 7 7 (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

Player4 (UTG) shows A 5 (a full house, Kings full of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

Player4 (UTG) wins $3.83

I don't win with better hand. This is how Party Poker rewards long time player.
02-23-2019 , 08:05 AM
LUL at that fat table.

GG OP
02-23-2019 , 08:06 AM
you just left out the K3s, A6o preflop jams, among other hands as if they didn't happen lol
02-23-2019 , 08:12 AM
drake, that you?
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Player5 (MP): $44.58 (2229 bb)


Also OP lets play NL100 together pls <3 I'll teach you how to play
02-23-2019 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelorcharlie
drake, that you?



Also OP lets play NL100 together pls <3 I'll teach you how to play
no, but I'm the guy who jammed TT pre lol. Wanted to see how wide OP would call
02-23-2019 , 08:18 AM
omegalol

Thanks OP
02-23-2019 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by drakelol
no, but I'm the guy who jammed TT pre lol. Wanted to see how wide OP would call
****ing idiot
02-23-2019 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelorcharlie
It's more or less $1k per year
it's fine
That's how a lot of micros players always look at it. "It's just $38 on a Saturday night". Tons of them have money to burn and don't even look at the game in terms of big blinds and buy-ins. You start seeing guys stacking off with ace high on the river for 200bb's, etc. I know when I first started playing 2nl, I actually expected to make like 5-8 BI's a day, move up and start building the bankroll. I had absolutely no idea how unrealistic that was so I started chasing with every hand that had the slightest potential. With only $2 in a stack, the tilt all ins can really add up fast.
02-23-2019 , 09:02 AM
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no, but I'm the guy who jammed TT pre lol. Wanted to see how wide OP would call
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Originally Posted by Paisting
****ing idiot


I'm dying
02-23-2019 , 10:09 AM
It was real all along. :O
02-23-2019 , 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BornToRun
Meh it's bad, but it's not 170bb/100 bad. Has to be a troll, there's no way anyone is this stupid.
He did reduce his EV from at least half of a 35bb pot to near zero though so that's got to be worse than -1500bb/100. It's also consistent with the main pillar of the biggest losing strategy possible: incorrectly shoving all in all the time. His posted hands are also consistent with this holy pillar.

I think we have to look at the positives here, this guy is a beautiful demonstration of all the mistakes it is possible to make in the following areas:
1)mental game
2)devoting effort and time to studying
3)adjusting to obvious villain strategies
4)getting to know population tendencies
5)the value of a good solid strategy
6)consistency and patience
7)bet sizing, especially valuebetting and 3bet/4bet/5bet game

I am sure we all have something to learn from Paisting. He is the reflection of our darkest selves.
02-23-2019 , 01:00 PM
Paisting, your game isn't "good". You might be the worst player on earth. If I was at your table I'd be jamming TT and 88 too. You aren't here to learn. You aren't listening to ANYTHING if you have a VPIP of 44. Are you going to respond to this or not? I'm seriously thinking you might have some mental illness, no offense.

      
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