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Originally Posted by BoozeCruise
IMO:
1 - this one of the best flops we could hit
2 - if we call bet F and hit T, its possible that vilain will fold part of his range
3 - maybe (I rather don't belive it) if we ship he will fold KQ, AQ
1. That's not a reason for this being a ship or fold flop.
2. You say we have no fold equity so and we're going to have < a psb left behind ott.
3. see #2.
I'm more interested in why you believe folding is > calling. Here's why:
Assuming he shoves 100% ott
vs. QQ+,99-88 +$0.25
vs. QQ+,99-88,AhKh,AcKc +$1.07
vs. QQ+,99-88,JTs,AhKh,AcKc +$0.69
These are extreme examples. These are all slight losers to rake. In reality, we're going to make much more because 1) his range isn't that tight, 2) button will overcall or shove which gives us more dead money with a significant amount of equity and 3) he's not shoving 100% of turns.
To be very clear, I'm not arguing that calling's better than shoving, I'm saying that thinking this is a fold or shove spot is wrong.
Last edited by .isolated; 12-15-2018 at 01:36 PM.