pre
folds to the sb
oop open
ip 3bets a decent size

flop
oop checks
ip bets 1/3 pot
oop call

turn
oop checks
ip makes a polarized bet
oop calls again

river
oop checks
ip shoves for a bit under pot
oop snap calls

so my question
whats the worst hand that you would value shove the river?

2nd question
whats the worst hand, you would call the ipp shove?

Reads?

K9

Edit maybe A3 versus a fish or an unknown.

no reads unknown villian
would you bet 3 streets for value with k9??
I can't believe that

would you call the river with A3hh?

It's a strange one. As oop player, I think here you have to call most of your Ax. So as IP, I think you can go relatively low in terms of which Ax you can take this line with.

I think one of the key factors in this hand is the pf sizings. SB open is too small, and bb 3bet is too big. At normal sizings (3bb and 9bb), I think SB should be 4betting the majority of AT+, but here, I think it should probably only be the just about all of AQ+, with maybe 50/50 AJ. So I'd say that due to that, bb should be taking this line for value with hands as low as A7/A8. On that basis, I think an argument could be made for SB calling all Ax, although I think those containing a 4h or 5h can be folded (as those are the only two h that I can see bb taking this line with as a bluff, as well as being lower than any of bb potential value). So yeah, I think calling with Ah3h would be reasonable, as it beats all the bluffs, blocks some value, and unblocks all bluffs.

I also think v has to call his majority of Ax, unfortunately for him I never bluff

you are a god, i can't believe you managed to bamboozle everyone again

The art of the old six deuce 3bet runner runner. Exploiting at its finest

i would only value shove AA, and would only call with JJ

I didn't do nothing to you jamie I bet 10thousand you raised me 20thousand

a player who can exploit anybody with 62 is lightyears ahead of the curve

Nobody show what's his ass this thread

mr grinder or something?

Didn't realize it before, but OP is the dude who got banned several months ago for posting a bunch of weird brag threads, where he made fundamental mistakes but still won the hand

yes you got me
seriously wtf are you talking about ?
Give me some of that what you take

Going to report you this time, just lying that I had a account before lol also because you do it whenever you have the oppurtinity too
Its easy for the mods to check who and which idiots do multi accounting on this forum

you just hate it because you don't have the experience and the fundamentals to do the same and dont want to realize that this ist just exploiting at his finest, do you understand fish?

Can you go into a little more detail on what exactly the exploit is? Is the idea that they're just overfolding if you start blasting off?

The art of exploitation:

1) Blast off with complete trash
2) Rationalize your bad play with something about "fold equity" and "postflop edge"
3) Post a cherry-picked example to 2+2 without any explanation whatsoever and deem yourself GOD of exploits
4) ??????
5) Proft!

Finally! Some poker advice I can implement in my own games

Minus the "profit" part anyway

guys are you blind? he WON the hand smh... that's all that matters

I have an edge over anyone in this micro subforum, you guys know that

I tried but you guys probably will never understand sbvsbb exploits

I don't blame you, you have never seen it before.
Humans doubt the things they don't know or have ever seen before, its just nature.
I can post more then 5k hands like this immiadetely, where I was able to make money, in this exact situation.

Surely if anyone is getting exploited in this hand, it is the IP player.

you are very wrong pjj

All I do is exploiting fish like whitefish

I don't get it then, you're going to have to explain. As far as I can see, the IP makes a correct call vs an optimal range pf, otf, ott, and otr is marginal, but I think correct. However, vs a player who has 62o in their range, I think SB calls are no longer marginal, but very profitable. For the BB, 3betting 62o very occasionally, why not as part of a polarised strategy, but 62s seems considerably better. The flop barrel is difficult to not define as overbluffing, as BB should have well over 100 combos of better bluffs, turn, well, if we get here with 62o, why not fire another barrel, as we do have 5 outs, but we do beat a decent amount of villain's range now, so we could also consider a check as well. And even low equity bluffs do get there sometimes, so there really is no choice but to go for a value bet otr.

I'm going to go ahead and look at a slightly different scenario: any card other than a 2 or a 6 hits otr. My guess is the river action is the same, and you were expecting villain's exact hand to fold.

what's the exploit? He called you down quite light so I would think you don't want to spazz off and bluff with weak hands like this.

its quiete easy
I'm gonna tell you via PM, because you are ahead of 99% here