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12-12-2018 , 03:57 PM
Hello everybody,

I've been an enthusiastic reader of this forum so far, but now I had a hand I'd like to share with you and hope for some answers.

I play Zoom, without HUD, have no reads on my opponents, it was the second hand of my session.

thx for answers how to play better pre, flop and turn

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $14.79 (148 bb)
MP: $10.01 (100 bb)
CO: $11.79 (118 bb)
BU (Hero): $10.05 (101 bb)
SB: $10.05 (101 bb)
BB: $11.80 (118 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with Q A
2 players fold, CO raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.80, 2 players fold

Flop: ($1.75) 4 T A (2 players)
CO bets $3, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($7.75) 8 (2 players)
CO bets $7.99 (all-in), Hero ??
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12-12-2018 , 04:12 PM
Hi
with out any reads I'd a fold on the flop. I think if you fold pre nothing rong will happen too.
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12-12-2018 , 06:39 PM
I think you need to 3bet pre- AQs should be in your 3betting range vs CO open.

AP- I think I call the turn, his bet sizing otf really looks like Ax to me or a pure bluff, you have most of his Ax dominated. I don't think a FD bet this big otf, sets probably aren't playing this aggressive either. He is playing like he really wants you to fold.
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12-12-2018 , 08:12 PM
Uh this looks like a huge whale im getting it in on the flop and expecting to be good most often
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12-12-2018 , 09:15 PM
Jeez. What is villain doing? 8x pre and overbetting the flop? I'd guess he's tilt-spewing. I'd go with it on the flop and just hope he didn't get lucky with TT, 44, or 2prs.

I'd recommend getting a HUD for 10NLz. The pool has some obvious regs (4-tabling and playing 23% VPIP) but it also has some crazy spewers, and you can often spot which is which after a handful of hands.
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12-13-2018 , 03:25 AM
This is an all-in or fold flop situation. Against this random button clicker you have no idea what turn hits him if you just flat.
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12-13-2018 , 03:52 AM
Thank you very much for your answers so far.

Interesting note:
I played around a bit with Equilab for this raise size and if I only give him about 11% of the best starting hands, AQs is even a fold preflop, which surprised me very much.

What do you think about that?

Thanks to the flop, the equity changes a lot in my direction and there is no going back, also I keep his bluffs running.
Turn is ugly, but I guess I'll have to go with it.

Preflop I was unnecessarily intimidated by the 8 BB raise, so I just called.
In this situation with this hand I usually raise about three quarters of my hands and call a quarter.

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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Jeez. What is villain doing? 8x pre and overbetting the flop? I'd guess he's tilt-spewing. I'd go with it on the flop and just hope he didn't get lucky with TT, 44, or 2prs.

I'd recommend getting a HUD for 10NLz. The pool has some obvious regs (4-tabling and playing 23% VPIP) but it also has some crazy spewers, and you can often spot which is which after a handful of hands.
A helpful hint regarding "tilt", thanks for that, I hadn't thought of that
Also thanks for the recommendation to use a HUD, but I've always been deterred by the complexity and training time, because I don't have so much time, which I mainly want to use for direct poker study (videos, streams, theory, forums) and of course play the game itself too.
I have been undecided here for some time.
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12-13-2018 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by selberleine
Thank you very much for your answers so far.

Interesting note:
I played around a bit with Equilab for this raise size and if I only give him about 11% of the best starting hands, AQs is even a fold preflop, which surprised me very much.

What do you think about that?

Thanks to the flop, the equity changes a lot in my direction and there is no going back, also I keep his bluffs running.
Turn is ugly, but I guess I'll have to go with it.

Preflop I was unnecessarily intimidated by the 8 BB raise, so I just called.
In this situation with this hand I usually raise about three quarters of my hands and call a quarter.



A helpful hint regarding "tilt", thanks for that, I hadn't thought of that
Also thanks for the recommendation to use a HUD, but I've always been deterred by the complexity and training time, because I don't have so much time, which I mainly want to use for direct poker study (videos, streams, theory, forums) and of course play the game itself too.
I have been undecided here for some time.
You could use Jivaro on pokerstars.
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12-13-2018 , 02:31 PM
if nothing else, a hud is good for marking hands for review
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12-14-2018 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Iblis
You could use Jivaro on pokerstars.
Thank you for pointing that out. I'll have a look at it

At first glance, it looks like a slimmed-down poker tracker or hold em manager. Is that right?

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Originally Posted by ionutd
if nothing else, a hud is good for marking hands for review
Yes, probably. right now I'm using the Upswing Converter, but it takes time to find the hands in the history (if I don't copy directly from Pokerstars Instant), so yes, could be faster.
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12-14-2018 , 09:34 AM
In my experience, when people have these ridiculous open sizes, it's not because they have a strong hand or whatever; it's just that they have no idea what they're doing. 3b pre and play for stacks when you hit against this spewtard.
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12-14-2018 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by selberleine
Yes, probably. right now I'm using the Upswing Converter, but it takes time to find the hands in the history (if I don't copy directly from Pokerstars Instant), so yes, could be faster.
Biggest benefit to a tracking program is to be able to use it to study your own game imo. The HUD and everything it delivers is just gravy. If you take poker even remotely serious, which you must if you are bothering with visiting this site, then it is a must own.
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